Is there any plan to release a new version of kratos soon? when using the oss version of kratos in dev and staging we are missing some features that are in the ory network. This would make development much easier and as far as I can see there has been no OSS release for 7 months. @high-optician-2097 @magnificent-energy-493

Hello @gray-branch-78361 there are no concrete timelines for OSS releases of Ory, generally we aim to have a release 2-3 times per year - sometimes it takes longer because of other priorities.

I totally understand that, is there a way the community could support these efforts? And as I wrote we are using ory network already but we are not happy with the usage of dev and staging environments, automation is on this level extremely poor so we use OSS version for that.

hm maybe the better solution then would be to improve the automation for dev and staging environments? do you have some notes on where you see the biggest issues and what your preferred solution would be?

We also have this issue -- we use self-hosted for local dev and preview deployments, which are not easily automatable without just hosting a self-hosted instance, but with a docker container we can just deploy each one ephemerally (as is de-facto standard in many self-hostable saas products -- see Hasura or Next.js for an example of models that work well for product development). There's no local config for this that can then be deployed with our normal ci/cd when we change configs though, which means we have to manually update each environment, which is extremely fragile. This is one (of many) reasons we're considering switching to another solution like betterauth and hanko.

@jolly-ocean-26344 yes exactly this brings it to the point. If you really need to build a serious platform on top of it, fragile is the last thing you want to hear. And having no automation + putting a lot work into it + paying for a service is a bad combo anyway.