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@chilly-king-10285 how to check if we have privileged session with ory sdk in typescript?
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A message from kapa.ai
To check if you have a privileged session using the Ory SDK in TypeScript, you can use the
toSession()
method from the
FrontendApi
class. Here's how you can do it:
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typescript import { Configuration, FrontendApi, Session } from "@ory/client"  const frontend = new FrontendApi(   new Configuration({     basePath: `https://${process.env.ORY_PROJECT_SLUG}.<http://projects.oryapis.com|projects.oryapis.com>`,     baseOptions: {       withCredentials: true,     },   }), )  async function checkPrivilegedSession() {   try {     const { data: session } = await frontend.toSession()          // Check if the session is privileged     const now = new Date()     const authenticatedAt = new Date(session.authenticated_at)     const privilegedSessionMaxAge = 15 * 60 * 1000 // 15 minutes in milliseconds      const isPrivileged = (now.getTime() - authenticatedAt.getTime()) < privilegedSessionMaxAge      return isPrivileged   } catch (error) {     console.error("Error checking session:", error)     return false   } }
This code snippet does the following: 1. It uses the
toSession()
method to retrieve the current session information. 2. It then compares the current time with the
authenticated_at
time of the session. 3. If the difference is less than the
privileged_session_max_age
(which is set to 15 minutes in this example), the session is considered privileged. Note that the
privileged_session_max_age
value (15 minutes in this example) should match the value you've set in your Ory configuration. You can adjust this value in the Ory Console or via the Ory CLI as described in the [Privileged sessions documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan#privileged-sessions). Remember that the exact implementation might vary depending on your specific setup and requirements. Always ensure that you're using the latest version of the Ory SDK and refer to the most recent documentation for any updates or changes to this functionality. [Session management documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/list-revoke-get-sessions) [Privileged sessions documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan#privileged-sessions)
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@chilly-king-10285 how to query
privileged_session_max_age
with Ory SDK?
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A message from kapa.ai
I apologize, but after carefully reviewing the provided knowledge sources, I couldn't find specific information on how to query the
privileged_session_max_age
directly using the Ory SDK. The knowledge sources don't contain details about a method to retrieve this value programmatically. However, I can provide you with information on how this value is set and where you can find it: 1. The
privileged_session_max_age
is a configuration setting in Ory Identities (Kratos). 2. You can set this value using the Ory Console or the Ory CLI. For example, using the CLI:
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ory update identity-config --project <project-id> --workspace <workspace-id> --file identity-config.yaml
Where the
identity-config.yaml
file would contain the
privileged_session_max_age
setting [Privileged sessions documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan#privileged-sessions). 3. The default value, if not set, is typically 15 minutes. If you need to use this value in your application, you might need to store it separately in your application configuration after setting it in Ory, as there doesn't appear to be a direct way to query it using the SDK based on the provided information. For the most up-to-date and accurate information, I recommend checking the latest Ory documentation or reaching out to Ory support for guidance on whether there's a way to query this value programmatically that isn't covered in the provided knowledge sources.
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@chilly-king-10285 is there way to make privileged sessions as long as standard session?
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A message from kapa.ai
Yes, there is a way to make privileged sessions as long as standard sessions in Ory. You can achieve this by setting the
privileged_session_max_age
to the same value as your standard session lifespan. Here's how you can do it: 1. For Ory Network users: You can configure this in the Ory Console. Go to AuthenticationSessions in the [Ory Console](https://console.ory.sh/projects/current/authentication/sessions). Set the "Privileged Session Age" to the same value as your standard session lifespan. 2. For Ory Kratos users: You can configure this in your Kratos configuration file. Here's an example of how to set it:
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yaml    selfservice:      flows:        settings:          privileged_session_max_age: 720h  # This is equivalent to 30 days        session:      lifespan: 720h  # This is also 30 days
In this example, both the standard session lifespan and the privileged session max age are set to 720 hours (30 days). 3. Using the Ory CLI: You can update the configuration using the Ory CLI:
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ory update identity-config --project <project-id> --workspace <workspace-id> --file identity-config.yaml
Where
identity-config.yaml
contains the updated configuration with the same value for both
privileged_session_max_age
and session
lifespan
. By setting these values to be the same, you effectively make the privileged session last as long as the standard session. However, please note that this approach may have security implications, as privileged sessions are typically kept shorter for security reasons. Always consider the security needs of your application when configuring these settings. If you decide to implement this, make sure it aligns with your security requirements and compliance standards. [Session lifespan documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan) [Privileged sessions documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan#privileged-sessions)
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@chilly-king-10285 If i set privileged_session_max_age to be greater than session.lifespan, the session will be still only be valid as long as session.lifespan, right?
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A message from kapa.ai
You are correct. If you set
privileged_session_max_age
to be greater than
session.lifespan
, the session will still only be valid for the duration specified by
session.lifespan
. The
privileged_session_max_age
does not extend the overall session duration. The
session.lifespan
determines the total duration for which a session is valid, regardless of its privileged status. The
privileged_session_max_age
is a subset of this time, defining how long within the session's total lifespan it retains its privileged status. Here's a breakdown of how it works: 1.
session.lifespan
sets the total duration of the session. 2.
privileged_session_max_age
determines how long the session is considered privileged after authentication. 3. If
privileged_session_max_age
is greater than
session.lifespan
, the session will expire when
session.lifespan
is reached, even if the privileged time hasn't elapsed. For example, if you set:
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yaml session:   lifespan: 24h selfservice:   flows:     settings:       privileged_session_max_age: 48h
The session will only last for 24 hours total, and it will be considered privileged for its entire lifespan. It's important to note that setting
privileged_session_max_age
longer than
session.lifespan
doesn't provide any additional benefits and might be confusing. It's generally recommended to keep
privileged_session_max_age
shorter than or equal to
session.lifespan
. [Session lifespan documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan) Remember, these settings should be configured based on your specific security requirements and use cases.
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@chilly-king-10285 how to handle secrets if doing gitops for ory network project management. For example, the smtp config contains the username/password for the email server connection_uri: smtp://username:password@ourserver.com:587
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A message from kapa.ai
When managing Ory Network projects using GitOps, handling secrets like SMTP credentials requires careful consideration to maintain security. Here's how you can approach this: 1. Don't store secrets directly in your Git repository: As mentioned in the [GitOps guide](https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/gitops), you should not save secrets such as API keys, credentials, or personal data directly in Jsonnet code snippets or configuration files that are stored in Git. 2. Use environment variables or a secrets management system: Instead of hardcoding the SMTP credentials in your configuration file, use placeholders that can be replaced with actual values at runtime or during deployment. For example, you could modify your SMTP configuration like this:
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yaml    courier:      smtp:        connection_uri: smtp://${SMTP_USERNAME}:${SMTP_PASSWORD}@ourserver.com:587
3. Use GitHub Secrets or similar CI/CD secret management: If you're using GitHub Actions for your GitOps workflow, you can use GitHub Secrets to store sensitive information. In your GitHub Action workflow file, you can then use these secrets to populate the environment variables:
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yaml    name: Update Ory Network Config     env:      ORY_PROJECT_ID: "<project-id>"      ORY_WORKSPACE_ID: "<workspace-id>"      ORY_WORKSPACE_API_KEY: ${{ secrets.ORY_WORKSPACE_API_KEY }}      SMTP_USERNAME: ${{ secrets.SMTP_USERNAME }}      SMTP_PASSWORD: ${{ secrets.SMTP_PASSWORD }}     on:      push:        branches:          - master    jobs:      run-ory-cli:        runs-on: ubuntu-latest        container: oryd/ory:v1        steps:          - name: checkout            uses: actions/checkout@v3          - name: Replace placeholders            run: |              sed -i 's/${SMTP_USERNAME}/'$SMTP_USERNAME'/g' identity-config.json              sed -i 's/${SMTP_PASSWORD}/'$SMTP_PASSWORD'/g' identity-config.json          - name: Push changes to Ory Network            run: ory update identity-config --file identity-config.json
4. Use Base64 encoding for complex configurations: If your configuration is more complex, you can encode it using Base64 and store the encoded string as a secret. Then decode it in your GitHub Action before applying the configuration. 5. Consider using a dedicated secrets management service: For more advanced setups, you might want to use a dedicated secrets management service like HashiCorp Vault, AWS Secrets Manager, or Azure Key Vault. These services can be integrated into your CI/CD pipeline to securely retrieve secrets during deployment. Remember, the goal is to keep your secrets out of your Git repository while still being able to manage your Ory Network configuration as code. Always ensure that your secrets are properly protected and only accessible to those who need them. [GitOps guide](https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/gitops)