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c
@chilly-king-10285 what's the recommended way to authorize identities to access endpoints of a service through oathkeeper based on identity user role (customer or admin)?
b
A message from kapa.ai
To authorize identities to access endpoints of a service through Ory Oathkeeper based on identity user roles (such as customer or admin), the recommended approach involves using Ory Oathkeeper's decision engine and configuring appropriate access rules. Here's how you can achieve this: 1. Set up Ory Oathkeeper as an Identity and Access Proxy in front of your service. 2. Configure access rules that use the OAuth2 Introspection authenticator. This authenticator can validate OAuth2 access tokens and extract claims, including roles. 3. Use an authorizer that can check the extracted role information. The "Allow" authorizer can be configured to check for specific scopes or claims that represent roles. Here's an example of how you might configure an access rule for this purpose:
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json {   "id": "some-id",   "upstream": {     "url": "<http://my-backend-service>"   },   "match": {     "url": "<http://my-app/some-route>",     "methods": [       "GET"     ]   },   "authenticators": [{     "handler": "oauth2_introspection",     "config": {       "required_scope": ["scope-a", "scope-b"],       "target_audience": ["example_audience"]     }   }],   "authorizer": {      "handler": "allow",     "config": {       "required_claims": {         "role": ["admin"]       }     }   },   "mutators": [{ "handler": "noop" }] }
In this example, the OAuth2 Introspection authenticator validates the access token, and the Allow authorizer checks for a "role" claim with the value "admin". You would create similar rules for different endpoints and roles. This approach leverages Ory Oathkeeper's decision engine, which processes requests in four steps: access rule matching, authentication, authorization, and mutation, as described in the [Ory Oathkeeper Decision Engine documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper#decision-engine). Remember to configure your OAuth2 server (such as Ory Hydra) to include role information in the access tokens or introspection responses. For more detailed information on configuring Ory Oathkeeper, you can refer to the [Ory Oathkeeper API Access Rules documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/api-access-rules#access-rule-format).
c
@chilly-king-10285 what if the identities usually log in with phone number and password through kratos api endpoints and in a self hosted envirnoment?
b
A message from kapa.ai
To handle the scenario where identities log in with a phone number and password through Ory Kratos API endpoints in a self-hosted environment, while still using Ory Oathkeeper for authorization based on user roles, you'll need to adjust your approach slightly. Here's how you can set this up: 1. Configure Ory Kratos for phone number and password authentication: First, ensure that your Ory Kratos identity schema is set up to use phone numbers as identifiers for password authentication. Here's an example of how to configure this in your identity schema:
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json
{
  "$id": "<https://schemas.ory.sh/presets/kratos/quickstart/phone-password/identity.schema.json>",
  "$schema": "<http://json-schema.org/draft-07/schema#>",
  "title": "Person",
  "type": "object",
  "properties": {
    "traits": {
      "type": "object",
      "properties": {
        "phone": {
          "type": "string",
          "title": "Phone number",
          "format": "tel",
          "<http://ory.sh/kratos|ory.sh/kratos>": {
            "credentials": {
              "password": {
                "identifier": true
              }
            }
          }
        }
      },
      "additionalProperties": false
    }
  }
}
This configuration is based on the example provided in the [Ory Kratos Phone Number and Password documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/manage-identities/customize-identity-schema#phone-number-and-password). 2. Use Ory Kratos for authentication: Users will authenticate through Ory Kratos using their phone number and password. Kratos will handle the authentication process and create a session for the user. 3. Configure Ory Oathkeeper: Set up Ory Oathkeeper as an Identity and Access Proxy in front of your service. Configure it to use the Cookie Session Authenticator, which can validate sessions created by Ory Kratos. Here's an example configuration for Oathkeeper:
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yaml
authenticators:
  cookie_session:
    enabled: true
    config:
      check_session_url: <http://kratos:4433/sessions/whoami>
      preserve_path: true
      extra_from: "@this"
      subject_from: "identity.id"
      only:
        - ory_kratos_session
This configuration is based on the example provided in the [Ory Oathkeeper Cookie Session Authenticator documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#cookie_session). 4. Define access rules in Oathkeeper: Create access rules that use the cookie session authenticator and an appropriate authorizer to check user roles. Here's an example:
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yaml
- id: "protected-api"
  upstream:
    url: "<http://my-api-server>"
  match:
    url: "<http://my-domain/api/<**>>"
    methods:
      - GET
      - POST
  authenticators:
    - handler: cookie_session
  authorizer:
    handler: allow
    config:
      required_claims:
        role: ["admin"]
  mutators:
    - handler: noop
This rule will allow access to the protected API only for users with the "admin" role. 5. Store user roles:
To handle the scenario where identities log in with a phone number and password through Ory Kratos API endpoints in a self-hosted environment, while still using Ory Oathkeeper for authorization based on user roles, you'll need to adjust your approach slightly. Here's how you can set this up: 1. Configure Ory Kratos for phone number and password authentication: First, ensure that your Ory Kratos identity schema is set up to use phone numbers as identifiers for password authentication. Here's an example of how to configure this in your identity schema:
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json {   "$id": "<https://schemas.ory.sh/presets/kratos/quickstart/phone-password/identity.schema.json>",   "$schema": "<http://json-schema.org/draft-07/schema#>",   "title": "Person",   "type": "object",   "properties": {     "traits": {       "type": "object",       "properties": {         "phone": {           "type": "string",           "title": "Phone number",           "format": "tel",           "<http://ory.sh/kratos|ory.sh/kratos>": {             "credentials": {               "password": {                 "identifier": true               }             }           }         }       },       "additionalProperties": false     }   } }
This configuration is based on the example provided in the [Ory Kratos Phone Number and Password documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/manage-identities/customize-identity-schema#phone-number-and-password). 2. Use Ory Kratos for authentication: Users will authenticate through Ory Kratos using their phone number and password. Kratos will handle the authentication process and create a session for the user. 3. Configure Ory Oathkeeper: Set up Ory Oathkeeper as an Identity and Access Proxy in front of your service. Configure it to use the Cookie Session Authenticator, which can validate sessions created by Ory Kratos. Here's an example configuration for Oathkeeper:
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yaml authenticators:   cookie_session:     enabled: true     config:       check_session_url: <http://kratos:4433/sessions/whoami>       preserve_path: true       extra_from: "@this"       subject_from: "identity.id"       only:         - ory_kratos_session
This configuration is based on the example provided in the [Ory Oathkeeper Cookie Session Authenticator documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#cookie_session). 4. Define access rules in Oathkeeper: Create access rules that use the cookie session authenticator and an appropriate authorizer to check user roles. Here's an example:
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yaml - id: "protected-api"   upstream:     url: "<http://my-api-server>"   match:     url: "<http://my-domain/api/<**>>"     methods:       - GET       - POST   authenticators:     - handler: cookie_session   authorizer:     handler: allow     config:       required_claims:         role: ["admin"]   mutators:     - handler: noop
This rule will allow access to the protected API only for users with the "admin" role. 5. Store user roles: Ensure that user roles are stored as part of the identity in Ory Kratos. You can add a "role" field to your identity schema and update it when necessary. By following these steps, you can set up a system where users authenticate with phone numbers and passwords through Ory Kratos, and then Ory Oathkeeper handles authorization based on user roles for accessing your service endpoints. Remember to secure your Ory Kratos and Ory Oathkeeper instances as mentioned in the [Ory Self-Hosted API Access Control documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/self-hosted/operations/api-access-control). If you need further assistance or have more specific requirements, consider reaching out to the Ory community on their Slack channel for additional support.
c
@chilly-king-10285 when I say that the user log in through kratos login api, I mean that it authenticates with a Bearer token, not access session.
b
A message from kapa.ai
I apologize for the misunderstanding. Thank you for clarifying that the user authenticates with a Bearer token through the Kratos login API, rather than using a session. Let's adjust the approach to work with Bearer tokens: 1. Kratos Authentication: Users will authenticate through Ory Kratos using their phone number and password, receiving a Bearer token in response. 2. Configure Ory Oathkeeper: Instead of using the Cookie Session Authenticator, we'll use the Bearer Token Authenticator in Ory Oathkeeper. This authenticator can validate the Bearer token issued by Kratos. Here's an example configuration for Oathkeeper:
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yaml authenticators:   bearer_token:     enabled: true     config:       check_session_url: <http://kratos:4433/sessions/whoami>       preserve_path: true       token_from:         header: Authorization       subject_from: "identity.id"       extra_from: "@this"
This configuration is based on the [Ory Oathkeeper Bearer Token Authenticator documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#bearer_token). 3. Define access rules in Oathkeeper: Create access rules that use the bearer token authenticator and an appropriate authorizer to check user roles. Here's an example:
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yaml - id: "protected-api"   upstream:     url: "<http://my-api-server>"   match:     url: "<http://my-domain/api/<**>>"     methods:       - GET       - POST   authenticators:     - handler: bearer_token   authorizer:     handler: allow     config:       required_claims:         role: ["admin"]   mutators:     - handler: noop
This rule will allow access to the protected API only for users with the "admin" role, using the Bearer token for authentication. 4. Token handling: Ensure that your client applications include the Bearer token in the Authorization header of their requests to the protected endpoints. By using this approach, you can leverage Ory Oathkeeper to authorize access based on Bearer tokens issued by Ory Kratos, while still maintaining role-based access control for your service endpoints. Remember to secure your Ory Kratos and Ory Oathkeeper instances, and ensure that your Bearer tokens are handled securely throughout your system. [Ory Oathkeeper Bearer Token Authenticator documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#bearer_token) provides more details on configuring and using the Bearer Token Authenticator in Oathkeeper.
c
@chilly-king-10285 and how can I create an identity with admin role (or customer role)?
b
A message from kapa.ai
To create an identity with an admin role (or customer role) in Ory Kratos, you need to modify your identity schema and use the Admin API to create the identity. Here's how you can do it: 1. First, update your identity schema to include a role field. You can do this by modifying the JSON Schema for identities. Here's an example:
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json {   "$id": "<https://schemas.ory.sh/presets/kratos/quickstart/email-password/identity.schema.json>",   "$schema": "<http://json-schema.org/draft-07/schema#>",   "title": "Person",   "type": "object",   "properties": {     "traits": {       "type": "object",       "properties": {         "email": {           "type": "string",           "format": "email",           "title": "E-Mail",           "<http://ory.sh/kratos|ory.sh/kratos>": {             "credentials": {               "password": {                 "identifier": true               }             }           }         },         "phone": {           "type": "string",           "title": "Phone number",           "format": "tel"         },         "role": {           "type": "string",           "enum": ["admin", "customer"],           "title": "Role"         }       },       "required": ["email", "role"],       "additionalProperties": false     }   } }
2. After updating the schema, you can create an identity with a specific role using the Admin API. Here's an example using curl:
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bash curl --request POST -sL \   --header "Content-Type: application/json" \   --data '{   "schema_id": "default",   "traits": {     "email": "<mailto:admin@example.com|admin@example.com>",     "phone": "+1234567890",     "role": "admin"   } }' <http://kratos:4434/admin/identities>
Replace
<http://kratos:4434>
with the actual URL of your Kratos Admin API. This will create an identity with the admin role. To create an identity with a customer role, simply change the "role" value to "customer" in the JSON payload. Remember that creating identities through the Admin API bypasses the normal registration flow and any associated hooks or verifications. You should only use this method for administrative purposes, such as creating initial admin accounts. For more details on managing identities, you can refer to the [Ory Kratos Create Identities documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/manage-identities/create-users-identities). After creating the identity, you can use Ory Oathkeeper to enforce role-based access control as described in the previous responses.
c
@chilly-king-10285 can I update the schema so that role is set by default to
customer
?
b
A message from kapa.ai
Yes, you can update the identity schema to set the role to "customer" by default. This can be done by modifying the JSON Schema for identities in Ory Kratos. Here's how you can update your schema to achieve this:
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json {   "$id": "<https://schemas.ory.sh/presets/kratos/quickstart/email-password/identity.schema.json>",   "$schema": "<http://json-schema.org/draft-07/schema#>",   "title": "Person",   "type": "object",   "properties": {     "traits": {       "type": "object",       "properties": {         "email": {           "type": "string",           "format": "email",           "title": "E-Mail",           "<http://ory.sh/kratos|ory.sh/kratos>": {             "credentials": {               "password": {                 "identifier": true               }             }           }         },         "phone": {           "type": "string",           "title": "Phone number",           "format": "tel"         },         "role": {           "type": "string",           "enum": ["admin", "customer"],           "title": "Role",           "default": "customer"         }       },       "required": ["email"],       "additionalProperties": false     }   } }
In this updated schema, we've added a
"default": "customer"
to the
role
property. This means that if no role is specified when creating an identity, it will automatically be set to "customer". To apply this updated schema, you need to update your Ory Kratos configuration. You can do this through the Ory Console or by updating your configuration file, as described in the [Ory Kratos Identity Schema documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/manage-identities/identity-schema). After updating the schema, new identities created without specifying a role will have the "customer" role by default. However, you can still explicitly set the role to "admin" when creating identities through the Admin API if needed. Remember that changing the schema doesn't automatically update existing identities. If you need to update existing identities to have the "customer" role, you'll need to do that separately using the Admin API.
c
@chilly-king-10285 I tried adding role in
required_claims
in oathkeeper access rules. But it didn't make any difference. Users with different roles or with no roles at all are passing. Is there a better way to configure authorization?
b
A message from kapa.ai
I apologize for the confusion. It seems that the
required_claims
approach in Oathkeeper's access rules might not be working as expected in your case. Let's explore a better way to configure authorization using Ory Keto, which is specifically designed for fine-grained permission management. Ory Keto is Ory's access control server that can handle complex authorization scenarios. Here's how you can use it in combination with Oathkeeper: 1. First, set up Ory Keto alongside your Ory Kratos and Ory Oathkeeper instances. 2. In Oathkeeper, instead of using the
allow
authorizer with
required_claims
, you can use the
keto_engine_acp_ory
authorizer. This authorizer integrates with Ory Keto to perform access control checks. 3. Configure your Oathkeeper access rule to use the Keto authorizer. Here's an example:
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yaml - id: "protected-api"   upstream:     url: "<http://my-api-server>"   match:     url: "<http://my-domain/api/<**>>"     methods:       - GET       - POST   authenticators:     - handler: bearer_token   authorizer:     handler: keto_engine_acp_ory     config:       required_action: "read"       required_resource: "articles"       subject: "{{ print .Subject }}"       flavor: exact   mutators:     - handler: noop
4. In Ory Keto, define your permission model. For example:
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class Role {     related: {         member: User     }     permits = {         read: Articles     } }  class User {     related: {         roles: [Role]     } }  class Articles {     related: {         readers: [Role]     }     permits = {         read: readers     } }
5. Use the Ory Keto API to create relationships that define your roles and permissions. For example, to give the "admin" role read access to articles:
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POST /admin/relation-tuples Content-Type: application/json  {   "namespace": "Role",   "object": "admin",   "relation": "member",   "subject": "user:alice" }  POST /admin/relation-tuples Content-Type: application/json  {   "namespace": "Articles",   "object": "all_articles",   "relation": "readers",   "subject": "Role:admin" }
This approach allows for more flexible and powerful authorization rules. It separates the concerns of authentication (handled by Kratos and verified by Oathkeeper) and authorization (handled by Keto and enforced by Oathkeeper). For more detailed information on setting up and using Ory Keto with Oathkeeper, you can refer to the [Ory Keto documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/keto/guides/simple-access-check-guide) and the [Ory Oathkeeper Keto Authorizer documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authz#keto_engine_acp_ory). Remember to thoroughly test your authorization setup to ensure it's working as expected. If you encounter any issues, the Ory community on Slack can be a great resource for troubleshooting and getting more specific advice.