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# ory-copilot
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@chilly-king-10285 how long after login ory requires verify again by login to update "profile" settings?
c
A message from kapa.ai
Ory requires re-verification for updating "profile" settings based on the configured
privileged_session_max_age
value. If the Ory Session is older than this specified amount, the user is prompted to re-authenticate. For example, if
privileged_session_max_age
is set to 1 minute, the user will need to sign in again before changing the password if the session is older than a minute. Here is an example of how you can set this value in the Ory configuration:
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yaml selfservice:     flows:       settings:         privileged_session_max_age: 1m
You can adjust this value according to your requirements. For more details, please refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/self-service/flows/user-settings#updating-privileged-fields).
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how can I set privileged_session_max_age in my ory console or ory sdk?
@chilly-king-10285 how can I set privileged_session_max_age in my ory console or ory sdk?
c
A message from kapa.ai
You can set the
privileged_session_max_age
value through the Ory Console or using the Ory CLI. Ory Console: To change the privileged session duration, go to AuthenticationSessions in the [Ory Console](https://console.ory.sh/projects/current/authentication/sessions), enter the desired value in the Privileged Session Age field and click the Save button. Ory CLI: You can use the Ory CLI to download the Ory Identities config from your project, update the configuration value for
privileged_session_max_age
, and then update the Ory Identities configuration using the updated file. Here are the steps: 1. Download the Ory Identities config from your project and save it to a file:
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bash ory list projects   ory get identity-config {project-id} --format yaml > identity-config.yaml
2. Update the configuration value for
privileged_session_max_age
to the desired value:
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yaml selfservice:   flows:      settings:         privileged_session_max_age: 15m
3. Update the Ory Identities configuration using the file you worked with:
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bash ory update identity-config {project-id} --file identity-config.yaml
For more details, please refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan#configuration).
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@chilly-king-10285 another question, guess I set session timeout time 15 minutes, that means when user browses and login, after 15 minutes the user will be automatically logged out during browsing, its a very bad user experience, is there any way to keep him logged in/extend the session timeout automatically when he is active? I am using ory console and ory sdk for my nextjs app
c
A message from kapa.ai
Yes, Ory provides ways to extend the session automatically when the user is active. This can be achieved by refreshing the session or extending the session. Refreshing the Session: You can force users to refresh the session by prompting them to re-authenticate by interacting with the
/self-service/login/browser
or
/self-service/login/api
APIs and setting the
refresh
parameter to true. When the user re-authenticates, the
authenticated_at
timestamp of the session is set to the time when the user re-authenticated. Here is an example of how to do this:
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javascript sdk.createBrowserLoginFlow({ refresh: true })
For more details, please refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/bring-your-own-ui/custom-ui-advanced-integration#refreshing-user-session). Extending the Session: Administrators can extend the session of a specific user using the extend session API from the SDK. Here is an example of how to do this in TypeScript:
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typescript import { Configuration, IdentityApi } from "@ory/client"      const identity = new IdentityApi(     new Configuration({       basePath: `https://${process.env.ORY_PROJECT_SLUG}.<http://projects.oryapis.com|projects.oryapis.com>`,       accessToken: `${process.env.ORY_ACCESS_TOKEN}`,     }),   )      export async function refreshSession(sessionId: string) {     return await identity.extendSession({       id: sessionId,     })   }
To get the Session ID, call the
/sessions/whoami
endpoint or
toSession
SDK method. For more details, please refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/refresh-extend-sessions#refreshing-sessions-as-administrator).
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@chilly-king-10285 here is my ory sdk:
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import { Configuration, FrontendApi } from "@ory/client"
import { edgeConfig } from "@ory/integrations/next"

const localConfig = {
  basePath: process.env.NEXT_PUBLIC_ORY_SDK_URL,
  baseOptions: {
    withCredentials: true
  }
}
export default new FrontendApi(
  new Configuration(
    process.env.NEXT_PUBLIC_ORY_SDK_URL ? localConfig : edgeConfig,
  ),
)
what changes would you suggest me to achieve extend session without login again using:
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import { Configuration, IdentityApi } from "@​ory/client"  
  
const identity = new IdentityApi(  
  new Configuration({  
    basePath: `https://${process.env.ORY_PROJECT_SLUG}.<http://projects.oryapis.com|projects.oryapis.com>`,  
    accessToken: `${process.env.ORY_ACCESS_TOKEN}`,  
  }),  
)  
  
export async function refreshSession(sessionId: string) {  
  return await identity.extendSession({  
    id: sessionId,  
  })  
}
c
A message from kapa.ai
You can modify your existing Ory SDK configuration to include the
IdentityApi
and the
refreshSession
function. Here's how you can do it:
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javascript import { Configuration, FrontendApi, IdentityApi } from "@ory/client" import { edgeConfig } from "@ory/integrations/next"  const localConfig = {   basePath: process.env.NEXT_PUBLIC_ORY_SDK_URL,   baseOptions: {     withCredentials: true   } }  const frontendApi = new FrontendApi(   new Configuration(     process.env.NEXT_PUBLIC_ORY_SDK_URL ? localConfig : edgeConfig,   ), )  const identity = new IdentityApi(   new Configuration({     basePath: `https://${process.env.ORY_PROJECT_SLUG}.<http://projects.oryapis.com|projects.oryapis.com>`,     accessToken: `${process.env.ORY_ACCESS_TOKEN}`,   }), )  export async function refreshSession(sessionId: string) {   return await identity.extendSession({     id: sessionId,   }) }  export default frontendApi
In this code, we're importing
IdentityApi
from
@ory/client
and creating a new instance of it with the necessary configuration. We're also defining the
refreshSession
function which uses the
extendSession
method from
IdentityApi
to extend the session. Please note that you need to replace
ORY_PROJECT_SLUG
and
ORY_ACCESS_TOKEN
with your actual project slug and access token. For more details, please refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/refresh-extend-sessions#refreshing-sessions-as-administrator).
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@chilly-king-10285 okay, so when and where to call refreshSession function in my nextjs app?
c
A message from kapa.ai
You can call the
refreshSession
function whenever you want to extend the user's session. A common place to do this would be in your application's middleware or in the components that require user interaction. For example, if you have a component that updates user data, you could call
refreshSession
before making the update request. Here's a simplified example:
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javascript import { useEffect } from 'react'; import frontendApi, { refreshSession } from './path-to-your-sdk-file';  export default function UserProfile() {   useEffect(() => {     async function fetchData() {       try {         const session = await frontendApi.toSession();         await refreshSession(session.data.id);         // Now you can make requests that require a fresh session       } catch (error) {         console.error(error);         // Handle error, e.g. redirect to login page       }     }      fetchData();   }, []);    // Rest of your component }
In this example, we're using the
useEffect
hook to call
refreshSession
when the component mounts. We first call
toSession
to get the current session, and then pass the session ID to
refreshSession
. Please note that this is a simplified example and you might need to adjust it according to your application's structure and requirements. For more details, please refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/refresh-extend-sessions#refreshing-sessions-as-administrator).
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@chilly-king-10285 how to get ory access token
c
A message from kapa.ai
To get an Ory access token, you can use the OAuth2 client credentials flow. This involves sending your client ID and client secret as part of the Authorization header in an HTTP request. Here's an example of how to do this:
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javascript const clientID = "the-client-id"   const clientSecret = "the-secret-id"   const basicAuth = bas64_encode(url_encode(clientID) + ":" + url_encode(clientSecret))      const requestOptions = {     method: "POST",     headers: {       Authorization: "Basic " + basicAuth,       "Content-Type": "application/x-www-form-urlencoded",     },     body: "grant_type=client_credentials&scope=read",   }      fetch("<https://your-project.projects.oryapis.com/oauth2/token>", requestOptions)     .then((response) => response.json())     .then((data) => console.log(data))
In this example, replace
"the-client-id"
and
"the-secret-id"
with your actual client ID and client secret. The
fetch
function sends a POST request to the
/oauth2/token
endpoint and the response includes the access token. For more details, please refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/client-credentials#basic-authentication).
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@chilly-king-10285 what type of password ory accepts? I want to show password making message in initial ui instead of error message.'
c
A message from kapa.ai
Ory follows the Digital Identity Guidelines established by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Here are the key points about the password policy: 1. Minimum password length: The password must be at least 8 characters long and all characters (unicode, ASCII) are allowed. 2. Password complexity: Passwords must have a minimum length of 8 characters and all characters (unicode, ASCII) must be allowed. They should not be commonly-used, expected, or compromised. For example, the list may include, but isn't limited to: - Passwords obtained from previous breach corpuses. - Dictionary words. - Repetitive or sequential characters (such as ‘aaaaaa’, ‘1234abcd’). - Context-specific words, such as the name of the service, the username, and derivatives thereof. 3. Similarity check: Ory ensures there is a sufficient Levenshtein-Distance (aka "Edit-Distance") between the identifier and the password. For example, if a user's email is
[[email protected]](<https://www.ory.sh/cdn-cgi/l/email-protection>)
,
bob24
would not be a valid password. 4. User Interface Guidelines: These best practices need to be implemented in your User Interface and can't be handled by Ory Identities. All Ory-built reference and demo applications implement these best practices: - Allow pasting of passwords. - Allow the user to show the secret in the UI. 5. Password Expiry: Ory doesn't expire passwords. You can refer to these guidelines while creating the password making message in your initial UI. For more details, please refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/concepts/password-policy).
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@chilly-king-10285 can we change the 8 charecter rules, or other rules from backend if I use self hosted ory?
c
A message from kapa.ai
Yes, you can change the minimum password length rule and other rules if you are using a self-hosted Ory setup. You can do this by modifying the Ory configuration file. For example, to change the minimum password length to 12 characters, you can use the Ory CLI to update the
min_password_length
configuration value:
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bash ory patch identity-config "$PROJECT_ID" \   --replace '/selfservice/methods/password/config/min_password_length=12'
In this command, replace
"$PROJECT_ID"
with your actual project ID. Please note that while you can change these settings, it's important to ensure that your password policy still adheres to security best practices. For more details, please refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/concepts/password-policy).
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@chilly-king-10285 can we do similar using ory console?
c
A message from kapa.ai
Currently, the Ory Console does not provide a direct option to change the minimum password length or other password policy rules. These configurations are typically done at the server level when you set up your self-hosted Ory environment. However, you can use the Ory CLI to update these configurations as mentioned in the previous response. For more details, please refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/concepts/password-policy).