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@chilly-king-10285 If I check Skip consent screen for an oauth client, will the client automatically get all the requested scopes?
c
A message from kapa.ai
If you enable "Skip consent screen" for an OAuth2 client in Ory, the consent screen will not be shown to the user. In this case, the client will automatically be granted all the requested scopes for that consent request, as long as the user is authenticated. The consent is accepted immediately without user interaction, and the requested scopes and audiences are granted as specified in the consent request. This is typically used for trusted, first-party clients managed by the same entity as the Ory project. Here’s how the logic works: - If the client is configured to skip consent, the backend checks the 
skip
flag or the 
client.skip_consent
property. - If either is 
true
, the consent request is accepted automatically, and the requested scopes are granted without showing the UI to the user. Example logic from the documentation:
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typescript const skipConsent =   challenge.skip || // skip because the user accepted the consent previously   challenge.client.skip_consent // skip because the client is trusted  if (skipConsent) {   // If the consent is skipped, we accept the consent request immediately.   await oauth2.acceptOAuth2ConsentRequest({     consentChallenge: String(consent_challenge),     acceptOAuth2ConsentRequest: {       grant_scope: challenge.requested_scope,       grant_access_token_audience: challenge.requested_access_token_audience,       session,     },   }) }
So, yes: when "Skip consent screen" is enabled, the client will automatically get all the requested scopes for each consent request, provided the user is authenticated and the request is valid [Skip consent and logout consent](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/skip-consent) [Custom-login-consent flow: Consent](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#consent).
b
@chilly-king-10285 say I have a salesforce app that's using our ory project as an IdP. We have an oauth client for salesforce. If a user is already authenticated to ory via another application, then why would they get prompted again to login when they go the SSO login in the salesforce app? Shouldn't their cookie already be set?
c
A message from kapa.ai
If a user is already authenticated to Ory via another application, in most cases, they should not be prompted to log in again when accessing Salesforce via SSO, as long as their Ory session cookie is still valid and accessible in the browser context. The Ory OAuth2 & OpenID Connect flow checks for an existing session cookie to determine if the user is already authenticated. If the session is valid, the login UI is skipped and the user is redirected back to the client (Salesforce) without re-authentication [OAuth2 authorization code flow](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/authorization-code-flow). However, there are scenarios where the user might still be prompted to log in again: - Session Cookie Not Present or Expired: If the Ory session cookie is missing, expired, or not sent with the request (for example, due to different domains, browser settings, or session configuration), Ory will not detect an active session and will prompt for login [Session lifespan](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan). - Session Cookie Configuration: If your Ory project is configured with 
session.cookie.persistent: false
, the session cookie will not persist across browser restarts or new tabs, which can cause unexpected logins [Session lifespan](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan). - Prompt Parameter: If the OAuth2 request includes 
prompt=login
or 
max_age=0
, Ory will force a re-authentication even if a session exists [OAuth2 authorization code flow](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/authorization-code-flow). - Cross-Origin Issues: If Salesforce and the other application are on different domains and the session cookie is not set with the correct domain/same-site attributes, the cookie may not be sent with the SSO request [Check session status](https://www.ory.sh/docs/identities/sign-in/check-session-token-cookie-api). In summary, as long as the session cookie is valid, present, and properly configured, the user should not be prompted to log in again when accessing Salesforce via SSO. If you are seeing repeated login prompts, check your session cookie configuration, domain settings, and the parameters used in the OAuth2 flow.
b
@chilly-king-10285 So given the following request and response, why did the user have to login? request GET /oauth2/auth?response_type=code&client_id=1a4d86e0-9bc2-45a5-bca1-942e0375942f&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Faviationcommunity.weather.com%2Faviation%2Fservices%2Fauthcallback%2FMaverick&scope=email&state=CAAAAZj23BwWMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwAAABAEdNFqrv8o2j-qwd4C5qwsuhFnUYiPhaejqqDc0PGvE0NzN1KNwghkcTDsizAq1lXeYELbc-TbS7i2uUXWXe7BhQ4wzT7PLxnFk7jXkqIkdKdhRgXN5PSL1TcKFlq-t-OmD68bmpqUong_FNZUhFaJ7_8bt30AzRkPG7aOgqrDdkmftaLF5pRhO7NLYgPQwzN_4JrMpf7d5NzlwjCGR1Qz6g8ETVgOUe9oL0Jd6BdnBJsL3WY5UnHBDNITzAtzwfoISGHn6DVYxpmcaPWM6BoqHIN6jmpKK6rUuqB1YpJyrGxlTXA0s7Ab4sZWt2Wgrhd1xwMFT5U_oVA_e_I9ht0C0fC6SPERJ7u-aR9l_TdZco&code_challenge=BFTuVB5DKTjIakls9Nzij5SQz9rdEWIVlasCD3zFamE&code_challenge_method=S256 HTTP/3 Host: bedrock-auth-prod.weather.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:142.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/142.0 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br, zstd Sec-GPC: 1 Connection: keep-alive Cookie: ory_oauth2_login_csrf_pedanticbrownl0c3gd58bj_dev_357284514=MTc1NjQ4NzIzOHx4OE4wbXE1VDJ5VTJRN0RrbW5fS28tWjNuSmxpcU1lNFAtQTB6ZUpEQlppMDU5cTJYLXhwcDVzWWt4Vmh1aHpWUmVVaXRUN1ktbkJITU1FV01pSTcwWkdBQktkQWQ3aHZYZ3NWcXFwbWdvbEdkZkNrTWFJYWIya3lVbGNGfPKrAvDddtRLANkgPcTHUKaMzg2thyxP4lH-3C7a7fed; 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ory_oauth2_consent_csrf_pedanticbrownl0c3gd58bj_dev_357284514=MTc1NjQ4Njc5MnxYVl9JcmgzNWlFMEtXTXBjOEVzNnRuU24xTmR0eS13WTVPbnNuV2dCT0l5c19TN3hkQWo3UTVBeFhvb2FzQjVQOFFVY2VCMWo2eWdiSU1VS0V6ZEdIblBFU19IMW5MSXlRTVpXalFsbFVyYnFjZklsem1vXzdiNVN1RU5ufPZyQH_dMOde1UredMyM-0m7AwkM20WcMXxjtXw5_anU Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1 Sec-Fetch-Dest: document Sec-Fetch-Mode: navigate Sec-Fetch-Site: none Sec-Fetch-User: ?1 Priority: u=0, i TE: trailers response HTTP/3 302 date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 170937 GMT content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 content-length: 1861 cf-ray: 976da83aac4d1785-IAD cache-control: private, no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate location: /ui/login?login_challenge=Rio-juHWH5CkRoxHwW1FANwStZcAA2Rko8xPi1dB7kkMnkdkU2vVJuvPMYPVMpySItwOsb5devALLn5EQGl8W8dIPlrpnrcPh6Mtmy12oqadvg0gtpcTWXwnSUiHme8nwlQmixBDbfbmQh0u4ymhHuoqemWLjiSdJr6aS0uaqaPVjGxjxWMWh3pJ1PdgVYeC3FhmR8kh5uDz1smsTkjVH_L5veo1Ji_-lP5o2YXZvlQ5YiuwJEKqhQjcoexgIopunHKPeUb3ZAE1b_oPqeAi1pcOeOVZ5SCK3_YMtQn5iKS-1VnDapBGK6Qf0hhTEiQ81geo1BeuBEMFRrJ8iGiF3aflycQ59Cqn65i_o83Y1D94_XYKBSJRy1PvpYyuJyPeQrzZW6xnQOQvCMAsfDY76Hly6VElyecUFf6YPdGiC3dqYroMyYb9ZGxyBiRoxoS5wllcHzD5sVjKTyRsnF_HZMBIzkG8GISCBrBk-L7FVnVmdsyVOI9RWfsz4TznWvXvioreaIFfBWCKTe8nQWEfbyVVYB9YrSwulqKKgdgCkYSfcwU4cG2hPKqGl6R9itWyTqtYFVhqIu_6a7C7SWXgZdCL-Y2uwzyrtXqI7_16BCaS_AP7J_xqF6KB1MyPRsZTHlx4PIifKLGbn8HFWmPyC0zcfXfqxZ21YlATFRuclP6C97YOG2Z6kNPUC5yaVijmbp-c1mkWSoTsd0e1ROLOga5GZ7LZkbAdIflqjJ58EakgxdwEjSNDzQR5IH1hRv8_GJeT05UAuQP9h0M8jxjELW_ArfL0_PjjJ0vpo0y05LwvxTLjZQD4Y6S72NdbNQi3V5bn5iBj2Yt39XII-UMxytBpdstE-IY-HoA5Kqu6OIGhrXtqJ-T-5prNhVfPS6I0CR0W49IUnxMFq5WBNqcbXZUNPjAh8KR0W9iXzREV2u0XBBFio5Od05JA7zUJ5ff3BJByHpjHotLPiEAFbDmSObxa63_qT7wkufhrrIy4p1yue06-NrUms323mDjQ6Ct8VQG7wGAqfqYse-L_VuofmaGXfMHgpgXCDabZx2C_QY-GpMPAR3ScBIGMlft8C9mLjwMCgm1hbvE59533d_Z8KSVuREh5RP2DeXRuJhkFVovMAPSSNZUw5Q8ukxG6PQgv7bJOggwpH9HRF8EhL0FEVJQTfno0lmGp3fU7uZ6eJrBR4_E9bno-eyaknIPMf86GwpgdyrufpkynnllZRm89QPgocD1xqtB67k4BN_BVaQj8KkWwJlOwNVg1MHwz7ctHpt0UiVV9x1Gn3t-OelUNDdXDmOADU81x0ftG83fmzFb9l6RGHU04dJWUukzlKvbWOanxEmsVPTGQr6ZYR9--oyYxWGtPeNrJ7bUblh806prZcGKoPnD-KQjCBxqea9CF23FInEJpSChvldGnr15poxahaq0i8abEkYnyNW_djSKjAD3PHbAz09OmOqxBT-4ukzpIYsRMFW1_JfYXKxtJcCKv8YRtBe5AqNK4fcvqf14huCuf_Og56Ya7yTGFe3vStGA6Gipkld9sJt2w4a49tbanqOvODz3JmyfoQj8InC1d8Di61IAfIuU5IhP59QsAzO8OFUSWPB-3Uyq0eI2l_1BMwFK8qWeaS0Nfqn-YYcLude87MUV0_eW8b9bUFIrIbkaTDG3479ZRQ0i3iESj4qQsESqtiR84V1plssbY2mph1aGObcqJT-xMOuNoR63OgFJy5SnqhORPAKSdLTgd2mJq1KuXIaz7exn_5oaYzmk9_r8t83WtEyYP8g5yZ-NunN1BauF1LlFmbQ%3D%3D set-cookie: ory_oauth2_login_csrf_pedanticbrownl0c3gd58bj_dev_357284514=MTc1NjQ4NzM3N3xIV0l4a0twOF9Vcks0S2FRUDQ2WlBNNE9IQmFLWFVjUGxIUjBNZ2JpdFZpeG5CQ0J1WkpQSURJcEwySm5nWEZhNE9mcTVZVG5NTG45Vk5TczlYTExsNWRiVDVQWk5Hc0hyRlZGbW9pZkxhUWRWQXBkb3EyaDFoektIUW44fF4pr3pEZBrgLqzeWkcOv05Pdt7oAC6tWi7UtyDRsNPI; 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c
A message from kapa.ai
Based on the request and response you provided, the user was prompted to log in again because Ory did not detect a valid, active session for the user when the 
/oauth2/auth
endpoint was called. This is indicated by the 302 redirect to 
/ui/login?login_challenge=...
, which is the standard behavior when no valid session is found [User login and consent flow](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#flow-steps). Here are the most likely reasons for this, based on the knowledge sources: 1. Session Cookie Not Present or Not Valid: Ory checks for a session cookie to determine if the user is already authenticated. If the session cookie is missing, expired, or invalid, Ory will redirect to the login UI [Session management](https://www.ory.sh/docs/identities/get-started/session-management) [Session lifespan](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan). 2. Cookie Domain or SameSite Issues: If the session cookie is not set with the correct domain or SameSite attributes, it may not be sent with the request to the Ory endpoint, especially if the SSO flow is initiated from a different domain or subdomain. This would prevent Ory from recognizing the session [Check session status](https://www.ory.sh/docs/identities/sign-in/check-session-token-cookie-api). 3. Session Expired: If the session lifespan has expired, the user must re-authenticate. The session lifespan is configurable, and if set too short, users may be prompted to log in more frequently [Session lifespan](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan). 4. Prompt Parameter or max_age: If the OAuth2 request includes 
prompt=login
or 
max_age=0
, Ory will force a re-authentication even if a session exists. However, your request does not include these parameters, so this is less likely in this case [OAuth2 authorization code flow](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/authorization-code-flow). 5. Cookie Mixup or Misconfiguration: There have been reports where a cookie mixup or misconfiguration in the application caused Ory not to recognize the session, resulting in repeated login prompts. Ensuring that the correct cookies are present and not overwritten or deleted is important [Github Issue: Infinite login loop](https://github.com/ory/network/issues/334). Summary: The most probable cause, given your request and response, is that the Ory session cookie was either not present, not valid, or not sent with the request to the Ory 
/oauth2/auth
endpoint. This caused Ory to redirect the user to the login page to establish a new session. Double-check your session cookie configuration, domain settings, and ensure that the browser is sending the correct cookies with the SSO request. If you need to debug further, use browser developer tools to inspect which cookies are being sent with the request and verify their validity and scope [CSRF troubleshooting](https://www.ory.sh/docs/troubleshooting/csrf#ory-oauth2).
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@chilly-king-10285 is it possible to decode a login challenge
c
A message from kapa.ai
I'm sorry, but the knowledge sources do not contain explicit information about whether it is possible to decode a login challenge. The documentation and API references describe the login challenge as an opaque value that is appended to the login provider URL and used to fetch information about the OAuth2 request via the Ory API. There is no mention of decoding the login challenge directly; instead, you are expected to use it as a parameter to the appropriate API endpoint (such as 
getOAuth2LoginRequest
) to retrieve the relevant information [Ory OAuth2 login flow](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#login-endpoint-code-example) [Ory API Reference: getOAuth2LoginRequest](https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ory/docs/master/docs/reference/api.json). If you need details about the login request, you should use the login challenge with the Ory API rather than attempting to decode it yourself.
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@chilly-king-10285 the documentation says this: To authenticate the user (this happens regardless of whether a session exists for the user or not), Ory OAuth2 and OpenID Connect redirects the browser to the "login endpoint" established in your config Why are users being prompted to reauthenticate at the ory account experience here? I have a valid cookie that is on the same domain as the account experience
c
A message from kapa.ai
The documentation states that Ory OAuth2 and OpenID Connect will redirect the browser to the configured "login endpoint" to authenticate the user, regardless of whether a session exists. However, this does not mean the user will always be prompted to reauthenticate. Instead, the login endpoint (such as the Ory Account Experience) is responsible for checking if a valid session exists (via the session cookie). If a valid session is found, the user is typically not prompted to log in again and is redirected back to the OAuth2 flow. If no valid session is found, the login UI is shown [User login and consent flow](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#login). If your users are being prompted to reauthenticate even though a valid session cookie is present and on the same domain, possible reasons include: - The session cookie is not being sent with the request to the login endpoint (check browser dev tools to confirm). - The session cookie is expired or invalid. - There is a misconfiguration in session management or cookie settings (such as domain, path, or SameSite attributes). - The login flow is being started with parameters that force reauthentication (e.g., 
prompt=login
or 
max_age=0
), though you did not mention these in your scenario. The expected behavior is: 1. The browser is redirected to the login endpoint. 2. The login endpoint checks for a valid session cookie. 3. If a valid session exists, the user is not prompted to log in again. If this is not happening, it is likely due to one of the issues above. The knowledge sources do not provide a more specific reason for this behavior beyond these common causes [Check session status](https://www.ory.sh/docs/identities/sign-in/check-session-token-cookie-api) [Session lifespan](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan).
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@chilly-king-10285 it appears that ory uses two different cookies for login ory_oauth2_login_csrf_<project> and ory_session_<project> If a user logins in they just get the session cookie. We then want that user to be able to login to another application without re-entering their credentials. However that is not currently happening when we go to /oauth/auth, they get redirected to the default ory experience. How do we address this?
c
A message from kapa.ai
You are correct that Ory uses multiple cookies: - `ory_session_<project>`: This is the main session cookie that proves the user is authenticated. - `ory_oauth2_login_csrf_<project>`: This is a CSRF protection cookie used during OAuth2 login flows. When a user logs in, they receive the session cookie. For SSO to work across multiple applications (i.e., the user should not have to re-enter credentials when accessing another app), the following must be true: 1. The session cookie must be present and valid when the user accesses 
/oauth2/auth
for the second application. 2. The session cookie must be sent with the request to the Ory endpoints. This requires: - The cookie domain and path are set correctly (should be shared across the apps). - The SameSite attribute allows the cookie to be sent (often 
Lax
or 
None
for cross-site SSO). - The cookie is not expired. If the user is still being redirected to the Ory Account Experience (login UI) when accessing 
/oauth2/auth
, it means Ory is not detecting a valid session. This is typically due to one of the following: - Cookie not sent: The browser is not sending the 
ory_session_<project>
cookie with the request to Ory. This can happen if the domain, path, or SameSite attributes are not set to allow sharing between your applications and Ory. - Session expired or invalid: The session cookie is expired or otherwise invalid. - Configuration issue: The Ory project may be configured with a non-persistent session (
session.cookie.persistent: false
), which means the session does not persist across browser restarts or new tabs, causing unexpected logouts [Session lifespan](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan). - Cross-domain issues: If your applications and Ory are on different subdomains or domains, ensure the cookie domain is set to a common parent domain and SameSite is set appropriately [Check session status](https://www.ory.sh/docs/identities/sign-in/check-session-token-cookie-api). How to address this: - Ensure your session cookie is configured to be shared across all relevant domains/subdomains. - Set the cookie domain to the parent domain (e.g., 
.<http://yourdomain.com|yourdomain.com>
). - Set SameSite to 
Lax
or 
None
(with 
Secure
if using 
None
). - Make sure the session is persistent if you want SSO across tabs and browser restarts (
session.cookie.persistent: true
). - Use browser developer tools to confirm that the 
ory_session_<project>
cookie is present and sent with requests to Ory endpoints. If all of these are configured correctly, Ory should detect the existing session and not prompt the user to log in again when accessing another application [Session management](https://www.ory.sh/docs/identities/get-started/session-management) [Session lifespan](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan). If you have verified all of the above and the issue persists, there may be a more specific configuration or environment issue not covered in the knowledge sources.
b
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c
A message from kapa.ai
The reason 
skip
is 
false
in your 
getOAuth2LoginRequest
response, even though the status is OK, is because Ory determines the value of 
skip
based on whether the user has an active session and whether the client, user, and requested scopes match a previous, remembered login. If any of these conditions are not met, 
skip
will be 
false
, and the login UI will be shown. From the knowledge sources: - The 
skip
value is 
true
only if the user is already authenticated and the client has previously requested the same scopes from the same user, and the session is still valid. If not, the login UI must be shown ([Custom-login-consent flow: Login](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#login-endpoint-code-example)). - The login flow always redirects to the login endpoint, but the login endpoint itself checks if a valid session exists. If so, it can accept the login request immediately; otherwise, it shows the login UI. The 
skip
flag in the login request tells you whether you can skip the UI or not ([Custom-login-consent flow: Login](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#login-endpoint-code-example)). - The 
skip
flag is not affected by the client’s 
skip_consent
setting. That setting only affects the consent step, not the login step ([Custom-login-consent flow: Consent](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#consent)). So, even if the status is OK, 
skip
will be 
false
if: - The user does not have a valid, active session (e.g., session cookie missing, expired, or not sent). - The login flow requires re-authentication (e.g., due to 
prompt=login
or 
max_age
). - The login request is for a new client, new scopes, or a different user. Summary: 
skip: false
means Ory did not detect a valid session for this login request, so the login UI should be shown. This is expected behavior if the session is not valid or not present, regardless of the HTTP status code. If you believe the user does have a valid session, check that the session cookie is present, valid, and sent with the request to Ory, and that no parameters are forcing re-authentication ([Session management](https://www.ory.sh/docs/identities/get-started/session-management)).
b
@chilly-king-10285 if a user logs in via a regular browser login flow, then they try to do a 
getOAuth2LoginRequest
in the same browser, should that succeed or fail? Assuming they have a session cookie valid for the appropriate domains
c
A message from kapa.ai
If a user logs in via a regular browser login flow and then initiates a 
getOAuth2LoginRequest
in the same browser, and they have a valid session cookie for the appropriate domains, the request should succeed. Ory will detect the valid session cookie and return the login request context. In this case, the 
skip
flag in the response may be 
true
, indicating that the user is already authenticated and the login UI can be skipped, or 
false
if additional authentication is required (for example, if the requested scopes or client differ, or if re-authentication is forced by parameters like 
prompt=login
or 
max_age
). The key requirement is that the session cookie must be present, valid, and sent with the request to Ory. If these conditions are met, the 
getOAuth2LoginRequest
call will return the login request context as expected [Custom-login-consent flow: Login](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#login-endpoint-code-example). If the session cookie is missing, expired, or not sent, the request will still succeed (HTTP 200), but the response will indicate that the user is not authenticated (e.g., 
skip: false
), and the login UI should be shown.
b
@chilly-king-10285 if a user logs in via a regular browser login flow, then they try to do a 
getOAuth2LoginRequest
in the same browser, should that succeed or fail? What if the oauth client is requesting scopes like 
email
and we have skip consent turned on? Assuming they have a session cookie valid for the appropriate domains
c
A message from kapa.ai
If a user logs in via a regular browser login flow and then initiates a 
getOAuth2LoginRequest
in the same browser, and they have a valid session cookie for the appropriate domains, the request to 
getOAuth2LoginRequest
should succeed. Ory will detect the valid session and return the login request context. The 
skip
flag in the response will be 
true
if the user is already authenticated and the login can be skipped; otherwise, it will be 
false
and the login UI should be shown [Custom-login-consent flow: Login](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#login-endpoint-code-example). If the OAuth client is requesting scopes like 
email
and you have "skip consent" turned on, this affects the consent step, not the login step. The "skip consent" setting means that, after login, the consent screen will be skipped and the requested scopes (such as 
email
) will be granted automatically. However, it does not affect whether the login UI is shown; that is determined by whether a valid session exists and the parameters of the login request [Custom-login-consent flow: Consent](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#consent). Summary: - 
getOAuth2LoginRequest
will succeed if the session cookie is valid and present. - "Skip consent" only affects the consent step, not the login step. - The login UI is skipped if the user is already authenticated and no parameters force re-authentication. If the session cookie is missing, expired, or not sent, the login UI will be shown even if "skip consent" is enabled for the client.
b
@chilly-king-10285 when executing getOAuth2LoginRequest, is there a way to see why skip was determined to be false?
c
A message from kapa.ai
I'm sorry, but the knowledge sources do not contain explicit information about whether 
getOAuth2LoginRequest
provides a way to see why the 
skip
property was determined to be 
false
. The documentation and API references describe the presence of the 
skip
flag and its meaning (i.e., whether the login UI can be skipped), but they do not mention any field or mechanism in the API response that explains the reasoning behind its value. You can only infer the reason based on session presence, requested scopes, client configuration, and request parameters, but the API itself does not return a detailed explanation for the 
skip
decision [Custom-login-consent flow: Login](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/custom-login-consent/flow#login-endpoint-code-example).
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