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@chilly-king-10285 Can you give me an example of a kratos web hook that fires after user login? Self-hosted.
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A message from kapa.ai
Certainly! In self-hosted Ory Kratos, you can configure a web hook to fire after a user successfully logs in by adding a hook to the
after
login flow in your configuration file. Here’s an example configuration snippet for such a web hook:
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yaml selfservice:   flows:     login:       after:         hooks:           - hook: web_hook             config:               url: <https://your-webhook-endpoint.example.com/after-login>               method: POST               body: <base64://ENCODED_JSONNET> # Optional: customize the payload               response:                 ignore: false                 parse: false               auth:                 type: api_key                 config:                   name: Authorization                   value: YOUR_API_KEY                   in: header
- The
hook: web_hook
entry tells Kratos to trigger a webhook. - The
url
is your endpoint that will receive the POST request after a successful login. - You can customize the request body using a base64-encoded Jsonnet template. - Authentication options (like API key) are available for securing your webhook endpoint. This configuration ensures your external system is notified every time a user logs in successfully. For more details and options, see the [Ory webhooks documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/integrate-with-ory-cloud-through-webhooks) and the [available actions in hooks](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/hooks/configure-hooks#available-actions)<source>https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/hooks/configure-hooks#available-actions&lt;/source&gt;&lt;source&gt;https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/integrate-with-ory-cloud-through-webhooks&lt;/source>.
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@chilly-king-10285 what information is available to put in the webhook message?
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A message from kapa.ai
When configuring a Kratos webhook, the information available to include in the webhook message (the request body) can be customized using a Jsonnet template. The available context for the webhook includes: - identity: The full identity object of the user involved in the flow. - flow: The flow object, which contains details about the current self-service flow (e.g., login, registration). - request_url: The URL that initiated the flow. - request_headers: The HTTP headers from the original request. - request_cookies: The cookies from the original request. - request_method: The HTTP method used in the original request. For password migration webhooks, additional fields like
identifier
and
password
are available, but for general login/registration webhooks, the above context is standard. You can use these fields to construct a custom payload for your webhook endpoint. If you do not provide a custom body, Kratos will send a default payload containing relevant information about the event<source>https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/integrate-with-ory-cloud-through-webhooks#customizing-request-body-with-jsonnet&lt;/source&gt;&lt;source&gt;https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/manage-identities/import-user-accounts-identities#password-migration-using-a-web-hook&lt;/source>. For more details and examples on customizing the request body, see the [webhook documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/integrate-with-ory-cloud-through-webhooks#customizing-request-body-with-jsonnet).
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@chilly-king-10285 I have the following configuration and do not nee the webhook being called nor anything in the logs.
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selfservice:                                                                
  flows:                                                                    
    login:                                                                  
      after:                                                                
        hooks:                                                              
          - hook: web_hook                                                  
            config:                                                         
              url: https://[hook url]
              method: POST                                                  
              response:                                                     
                ignore: false                                               
                parse: true
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@chilly-king-10285 I have the following configuration and do not see the webhook being called nor anything in the logs.
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selfservice:                                                                
  flows:                                                                    
    login:                                                                  
      after:                                                                
        hooks:                                                              
          - hook: web_hook                                                  
            config:                                                         
              url: https://[hook url]
              method: POST                                                  
              response:                                                     
                ignore: false                                               
                parse: true
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A message from kapa.ai
Based on the knowledge sources, here are the most likely reasons why your webhook is not being called and nothing appears in the logs: 1. Method-Specific Hook Precedence: If you have method-specific hooks configured (e.g.,
password
,
oidc
, etc.) under
login.after
, these will override the global
after.hooks
section. In such cases, the global hook will not be triggered for those methods. You should check your full configuration to ensure there are no method-specific hooks that might be taking precedence over the global one. This behavior is described in the [trigger precedence documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/hooks/configure-hooks#trigger-precedence)<source>https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/hooks/configure-hooks#trigger-precedence&lt;/source>. 2. No Log Output: The knowledge sources do not provide explicit details about logging for failed or skipped hooks in self-hosted Kratos. If the hook is not being triggered due to configuration precedence or other issues, it is possible that nothing will appear in the logs. 3. Webhook URL Formatting: If your webhook URL contains leading or trailing whitespace, the webhook may silently fail to be registered or called. This has been reported as a real-world issue and can result in no webhook calls and no clear error messages in the logs. Double-check your URL formatting to ensure there are no hidden characters or spaces. This issue is discussed in [this GitHub issue](https://github.com/ory/network/issues/328)<source>https://github.com/ory/network/issues/328&lt;/source>. 4. General Troubleshooting: The documentation suggests exporting your configuration and reviewing the order and placement of hooks, especially if you have other hooks like
session
that could interfere with execution order. However, your provided snippet does not include a
session
hook, so this is less likely the cause in your case<source>https://www.ory.sh/docs/troubleshooting/troubleshoot-actions&lt;/source>. Summary: - Check for method-specific hooks that may override the global
after.hooks
. - Ensure your webhook URL is correctly formatted with no extra spaces. - If the above do not resolve the issue, the knowledge sources do not provide further explicit troubleshooting steps for this scenario. If you need more detailed troubleshooting, consider exporting your full configuration and reviewing it for any discrepancies as suggested in the documentation.
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@chilly-king-10285 the web hook fails with "got empty template path for request with body". I thought I did not need to specify a body.
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A message from kapa.ai
The error "got empty template path for request with body" indicates that Ory Kratos expects a request body for your webhook, but you have not specified a
body
field in your configuration. According to the documentation, the
body
field is optional, and if not specified, Kratos should use a default payload. However, in some cases—especially when using certain HTTP methods like `POST`—Kratos may require an explicit body template to be set, or it may not be able to determine what to send and thus fails with this error. To resolve this, you should explicitly specify a body for your webhook. You can use a simple Jsonnet template, for example:
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yaml body: <file://path/to/body.jsonnet>
Or, if you want to use the default payload, you can use a universal Jsonnet template like:
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jsonnet function(ctx) { user_id: ctx.identity.id }
Encode this template as a file or as a base64 string and reference it in your configuration:
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yaml body: base64://<base64-encoded-jsonnet>
This approach is confirmed in the documentation, which shows that the
body
field can be omitted, but if you encounter this error, specifying it explicitly resolves the issue [see webhook configuration and Jsonnet templating](https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/integrate-with-ory-cloud-through-webhooks#define-http-request)<source>https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/integrate-with-ory-cloud-through-webhooks#define-http-request&lt;/source>. If you continue to see this error after specifying a body, there may be an issue with how the path or encoding is provided. Double-check the path or base64 encoding as needed.
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@chilly-king-10285 can you point me to jsonnet documentation?
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A message from kapa.ai
You can find the official Jsonnet documentation and learning resources at [https://jsonnet.org/](https://jsonnet.org/). Ory also recommends checking out the [Learning Jsonnet Tutorial](https://jsonnet.org/learning/tutorial.html) for a practical introduction and examples relevant to Ory Kratos configuration and data mapping [Data mapping with Jsonnet](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/reference/jsonnet)<source>https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/reference/jsonnet&lt;/source>.
p
@chilly-king-10285 is there a simple way to dump the
ctx
when executing a post login web hook?
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A message from kapa.ai
I'm sorry, but the knowledge sources do not explicitly mention a built-in or simple way to dump the full
ctx
object when executing a post-login webhook in Ory Kratos. The documentation describes the structure and available fields of
ctx
and how to use Jsonnet to access them, but it does not provide a direct method or example for dumping or logging the entire
ctx
object during webhook execution. If you need to inspect the contents of
ctx
, you could create a Jsonnet template that includes all fields you are interested in and send them to your webhook endpoint, but this would require you to manually specify which fields to include. There is no mention of a "dump all" or debug mode for webhooks in the provided documentation sources [Jsonnet templating](https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/integrate-with-ory-cloud-through-webhooks#jsonnet-templating)<source>https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/integrate-with-ory-cloud-through-webhooks#jsonnet-templating&lt;/source>. If you need further assistance, you may need to experiment by constructing a Jsonnet template that outputs as much of
ctx
as possible, or consult Ory community channels for advanced debugging techniques.
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@chilly-king-10285 this does it:
'function(ctx) { Text: "cxt" + ctx }'
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A message from kapa.ai
The knowledge sources do not provide an explicit example or confirmation that using a Jsonnet template like
'function(ctx) { Text: "ctx" + ctx }'
will successfully dump the entire
ctx
object in the webhook payload. Jsonnet does allow you to construct objects from the
ctx
parameter, and you can include fields from
ctx
in your output, but directly concatenating an object to a string (as in
"Text: " + ctx
) is not valid Jsonnet syntax and will result in an error. To inspect the contents of
ctx
, you should return it directly or as a field in your Jsonnet template, for example:
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jsonnet function(ctx) { ctx: ctx }
This will include the entire
ctx
object in the webhook payload, allowing you to see all available fields. For more details on how to use Jsonnet with Ory webhooks, see the [Jsonnet templating documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/integrate-with-ory-cloud-through-webhooks#jsonnet-templating)<source>https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/integrate-with-ory-cloud-through-webhooks#jsonnet-templating&lt;/source>. If you need to inspect specific fields, you can construct an object with just those fields from
ctx
.
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@chilly-king-10285 can I call unauthenticated webhooks via http?
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A message from kapa.ai
Yes, you can call unauthenticated webhooks via HTTP in Ory Kratos. The webhook configuration allows you to omit the
auth
section, which means no authentication will be used for the webhook request. Additionally, the
url
can use either the
http://
or
https://
scheme, as long as it is an absolute URL and includes a path part. This is explicitly mentioned in the configuration documentation for HTTP-based email delivery, which applies similarly to webhooks: > It needs to be absolute, start with http:// or https:// scheme, and include path part - for example "https://api.sender.com/v1/message". If you do not specify authentication, the webhook will be called unauthenticated [source](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/self-hosted/email-http#configuration). However, please note that using unauthenticated and unencrypted (HTTP) webhooks in production is not recommended for security reasons.
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@chilly-king-10285 I have kratos in a k8s cluster and I'm trying to fire a webhook from kratos to another service in the same namespace. THe webhook works with
curl
but kratos hangs when sending it. Why could this be?
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A message from kapa.ai
Based on the knowledge sources, there is no explicit documentation about Kratos webhooks hanging in a Kubernetes (k8s) environment when the same webhook works with
curl
. However, there are a few relevant points and troubleshooting steps you should consider: 1. Private IP Range Restrictions: If you have enabled the
disallow_private_ip_ranges
setting in your Kratos configuration, Kratos will block outgoing HTTP requests to private IP ranges, which includes services within the same Kubernetes namespace. This could cause the webhook call to hang or fail. Check your configuration for:
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yaml    clients:      http:        disallow_private_ip_ranges: true
If this is set to
true
, try disabling it or ensure your internal service is accessible according to your security requirements [see production guide](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/guides/production). 2. No Explicit Logging or Error: The knowledge sources do not mention specific log messages for this scenario. If Kratos is hanging, it may be waiting for a network timeout or being blocked by network policies or service mesh configurations in your cluster. 3. General Troubleshooting: - Ensure the service DNS name and port are correct and accessible from the Kratos pod. - Check for any network policies, service mesh, or firewall rules that might block traffic between pods. - Review Kratos logs for any warnings or errors related to HTTP client requests. If none of these apply and the issue persists, the knowledge sources do not provide further explicit guidance for this scenario. You may need to increase logging verbosity or use network debugging tools within your cluster to further diagnose the issue.