To gain access to a user's access token after Google sign-in/sign-up flow with Ory, you can follow these steps: 1. First, ensure you have configured Google as a social sign-in provider in your Ory project. 2. After the user completes the Google sign-in/sign-up flow, you can retrieve the tokens (including the access token) issued by the social sign-in provider using the Ory API. 3. To get the tokens, you need to make a request to retrieve the identity details that include the social sign-in provider tokens. You can do this using the Ory CLI, cURL, or SDKs (JavaScript, Go). Here's an example using the Ory CLI:

bash ory get identity "$identity_id" --project "$PROJECT_ID" \   -i oidc --format yaml

Replace

$identity_id

with the actual identity ID of the user and

$PROJECT_ID

with your Ory project ID. When successful, the system will return the identity details, including the available social sign-in provider tokens. The access token will be included in the response under the

initial_access_token

field. It's important to note that these tokens are only issued when the identity signs up with a social sign-in provider or links a new social sign-in provider to their account. For more detailed information and examples using other methods (cURL, JavaScript, Go), you can refer to the [Get social sign-in provider tokens](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/social-signin/get-tokens) documentation.

You're correct, and I apologize for not clarifying this important point in my previous answer. The token obtained from the social sign-in provider (in this case, Google) could indeed be expired and is not automatically renewed when the user signs in again. Let me explain this further: 1. The access token obtained from Google during the initial sign-up or account linking process is stored by Ory, but it's not automatically refreshed. 2. These tokens have a limited lifespan and will eventually expire. Google's access tokens typically expire after about an hour. 3. Ory does not automatically refresh these tokens when a user signs in again. To handle this situation, you have a few options: 1. If you need a fresh Google access token, you would need to implement a re-authentication flow where the user goes through the Google sign-in process again. 2. Alternatively, if your application needs ongoing access to Google resources, you might consider using Ory's OAuth2 and OpenID Connect capabilities to manage tokens and implement a refresh token flow. It's important to note that the tokens stored by Ory from social providers are primarily used for initial account creation or linking, not for ongoing access to the provider's resources. For more detailed information on token handling and OAuth2 flows in Ory, you can refer to the following resources: 1. [OAuth2 refresh token grant](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/refresh-token-grant) 2. [Opaque and JWT access tokens](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/jwt-access-token) These documents provide more context on how Ory handles various types of tokens and OAuth2 flows, which might be helpful if you need to implement more advanced token management in your application.