<@U04UQ68083H> how can I enable hydra and oathkeep...
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c
@chilly-king-10285 how can I enable hydra and oathkeeper oauth2 introspection in self-hosted environment? And how can I use it (with and without oathkeeper)?
b
A message from kapa.ai
To enable and use OAuth2 introspection with Ory Hydra and Oathkeeper in a self-hosted environment, you'll need to configure both services. Let me break down the process for you: 1. Enabling OAuth2 Introspection in Ory Hydra: Ory Hydra has OAuth2 introspection enabled by default. You just need to ensure that the introspection endpoint is accessible. In a self-hosted environment, you'll need to expose the administrative API endpoints, including the introspection endpoint. As per the [Ory Hydra Production Guide](https://www.ory.sh/docs/hydra/self-hosted/production#exposing-administrative-and-public-api-endpoints), the introspection endpoint (
/oauth2/introspect
) is part of the administrative API. Make sure to secure this endpoint properly, as it doesn't have built-in access control. 2. Configuring Oathkeeper for OAuth2 Introspection: To enable OAuth2 introspection in Oathkeeper, you need to configure the
oauth2_introspection
authenticator. Here's how you can do it: In your Oathkeeper configuration file (e.g.,
oathkeeper.yml
), add the following:
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yaml authenticators:   oauth2_introspection:     enabled: true     config:       introspection_url: <http://your-hydra-admin-url:4445/oauth2/introspect>       scope_strategy: exact       required_scope:         - your_required_scope
Replace
your-hydra-admin-url
with the actual URL of your Hydra admin API, and
your_required_scope
with the scope you want to require. 3. Using OAuth2 Introspection: a) Without Oathkeeper: You can use the Ory Hydra CLI to perform token introspection directly:
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bash docker run --rm -it oryd/hydra:v2.0.1 \   introspect token \   --endpoint <http://your-hydra-admin-url:4445> \   "your-access-token-here"
This command will return the token's metadata if it's valid. b) With Oathkeeper: When using Oathkeeper, you don't need to perform the introspection manually. Oathkeeper will handle it based on your configuration. You just need to send requests to your API with the Bearer token in the Authorization header:
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Authorization: Bearer your-access-token-here
Oathkeeper will then use the configured
oauth2_introspection
authenticator to validate the token against Hydra. For more detailed information, you can refer to the following resources: - [Ory Oathkeeper OAuth2 Introspection](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#oauth2_introspection) - [Ory Hydra Introspection Guide](https://www.ory.sh/docs/hydra/5min-tutorial) Remember to adjust the URLs and configurations according to your specific self-hosted environment.
c
@chilly-king-10285 and how can I enable refresh token in hydra?
b
A message from kapa.ai
To enable refresh tokens in Ory Hydra, you need to configure your OAuth2 client to support the refresh token grant type. Here's how you can do it: 1. When creating a new OAuth2 client, include the
refresh_token
grant type:
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bash docker run --rm -it --network hydraguide oryd/hydra:v2.0.1 \   create client \     --endpoint <http://127.0.0.1:4445> \     --grant-type authorization_code,refresh_token \     --response-type code \     --scope openid,offline_access \     --redirect-uri <http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback>
Note the inclusion of
refresh_token
in the
--grant-type
flag and
offline_access
in the
--scope
flag. The
offline_access
scope is required to receive a refresh token. 2. When performing the OAuth2 flow, make sure to request the
offline_access
scope:
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bash docker run --rm -it --network hydraguide oryd/hydra:v2.0.1 \     hydra perform authorization-code \     --client-id $code_client_id \     --client-secret $code_client_secret \     --endpoint <http://127.0.0.1:4444/> \     --port 5555 \     --scope openid --scope offline
This will result in receiving both an access token and a refresh token. 3. You can configure the refresh token lifespan using the Ory CLI:
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bash ory patch oauth2-config --project <project-id> --workspace <workspace-id> \   --replace "/ttl/refresh_token=\"24h\"" \   --format yaml
This example sets the refresh token lifespan to 24 hours. Note that the maximum age of refresh tokens is 6 months. For more detailed information, you can refer to these sources: - [Ory Hydra 5 Minute Tutorial](https://www.ory.sh/docs/hydra/5min-tutorial) - [Ory OAuth2 Refresh Token Grant](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/refresh-token-grant#change-refresh-token-lifespan) Remember to adjust the endpoints and configurations according to your specific self-hosted environment.
c
@chilly-king-10285 and which http request returns refresh token? Please provide example request.
b
A message from kapa.ai
To obtain a refresh token, you typically use the Authorization Code Grant flow in OAuth2. The refresh token is returned in the token exchange step, where you exchange the authorization code for tokens. Here's an example of the HTTP request that returns a refresh token:
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POST /oauth2/token HTTP/1.1 Host: your-hydra-public-url Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded  grant_type=authorization_code &client_id=your-client-id &client_secret=your-client-secret &code=the-authorization-code &redirect_uri=<http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback>
This request should be sent to the token endpoint of your Ory Hydra instance. The response will include both an access token and a refresh token (if the client is configured to receive refresh tokens and the
offline_access
scope was requested). Here's an example of how you might make this request using cURL:
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bash curl -X POST \   <https://your-hydra-public-url/oauth2/token> \   -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' \   -d 'grant_type=authorization_code' \   -d 'client_id=your-client-id' \   -d 'client_secret=your-client-secret' \   -d 'code=the-authorization-code' \   -d 'redirect_uri=<http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback>'
Remember to replace
your-hydra-public-url
,
your-client-id
,
your-client-secret
,
the-authorization-code
, and the
redirect_uri
with your actual values. The response will look something like this:
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json {   "access_token": "access-token-here",   "token_type": "bearer",   "expires_in": 3600,   "refresh_token": "refresh-token-here",   "scope": "openid offline_access" }
Note that to receive a refresh token, you must have configured your client to support the
refresh_token
grant type and requested the
offline_access
scope during the initial authorization request, as mentioned in the previous answer. For more detailed information, you can refer to the [Ory OAuth2 Refresh Token Grant documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/refresh-token-grant).
c
@chilly-king-10285 how can I get the authorization code?
b
A message from kapa.ai
To obtain an authorization code in Ory Hydra, you need to initiate the OAuth2 Authorization Code flow. This involves redirecting the user to Hydra's authorization endpoint. Here's how you can get the authorization code: 1. Construct the authorization URL:
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<https://your-hydra-public-url/oauth2/auth?response_type=code&client_id=your-client-id&redirect_uri=your-redirect-uri&scope=openid> offline_access&state=some-random-state
Replace
your-hydra-public-url
,
your-client-id
, and
your-redirect-uri
with your actual values. 2. Redirect the user to this URL. The user will be prompted to log in and consent to the requested scopes. 3. After successful authentication and consent, Hydra will redirect the user back to your
redirect_uri
with the authorization code as a query parameter. For example, if your
redirect_uri
is
<http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback>
, the redirect might look like this:
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<http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback?code=authorization-code-here&state=some-random-state>
You can then extract the
code
parameter from this URL to get your authorization code. Here's an example of how you can initiate this flow using the Ory CLI:
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bash ory perform authorization-code \   --project $project_id \   --client-id $code_client_id \   --client-secret $code_client_secret
This command will start a demo web server and open a browser window to begin the authorization flow. After you complete the flow, the authorization code will be displayed in the terminal. For more detailed information, you can refer to the [Ory OAuth2 Authorization Code Flow documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/authorization-code-flow). Remember to adjust the URLs and parameters according to your specific Ory Hydra setup. [Ory OAuth2 Authorization Code Flow](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/authorization-code-flow) [Run your own OAuth2 Server](https://www.ory.sh/run-oauth2-server-open-source-api-security/#perform-oauth2-authorization-code-flow)
c
@chilly-king-10285 please provide all configuration needed in hydra and oathkeeper to be able to get refresh token. After that, please provide all http curl requests needed.
b
A message from kapa.ai
Certainly! I'll provide you with the necessary configurations for both Ory Hydra and Oathkeeper to enable refresh token functionality, followed by the required HTTP curl requests. Let's break this down step by step: 1. Ory Hydra Configuration: First, you need to create an OAuth2 client in Hydra that supports refresh tokens:
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bash
ory create oauth2-client \
    --project your-project-id \
    --name "My Client" \
    --grant-type authorization_code,refresh_token \
    --response-type code \
    --scope openid,offline_access \
    --redirect-uri <http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback>
Make sure to replace
your-project-id
with your actual project ID. 2. Oathkeeper Configuration: In your Oathkeeper configuration file (e.g.,
oathkeeper.yml
), add the following to enable OAuth2 introspection:
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yaml
authenticators:
  oauth2_introspection:
    enabled: true
    config:
      introspection_url: <http://your-hydra-admin-url:4445/oauth2/introspect>
      scope_strategy: exact
      required_scope:
        - openid
        - offline_access
Replace
your-hydra-admin-url
with the actual URL of your Hydra admin API. Now, let's go through the HTTP curl requests needed to obtain and use a refresh token: 3. Initiate Authorization Code Flow:
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bash
curl -X GET \
  '<https://your-hydra-public-url/oauth2/auth?response_type=code&client_id=your-client-id&redirect_uri=http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback&scope=openid%20offline_access&state=some-random-state>'
This will return a redirect URL. Open this URL in a browser, log in, and authorize the application. You'll be redirected to your callback URL with the authorization code. 4. Exchange Authorization Code for Tokens:
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bash
curl -X POST \
  <https://your-hydra-public-url/oauth2/token> \
  -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' \
  -d 'grant_type=authorization_code' \
  -d 'client_id=your-client-id' \
  -d 'client_secret=your-client-secret' \
  -d 'code=your-authorization-code' \
  -d 'redirect_uri=<http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback>'
This will return an access token and a refresh token. 5. Use Refresh Token to Get New Access Token:
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bash
curl -X POST \
  <https://your-hydra-public-url/oauth2/token> \
  -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' \
  -d 'grant_type=refresh_token' \
  -d 'client_id=your-client-id' \
  -d 'client_secret=your-client-secret' \
  -d 'refresh_token=your-refresh-token'
This will return a new access token and possibly a new refresh token. 6. Introspect Token (can be done through Oathkeeper):
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bash
curl -X POST \
  <http://your-hydra-admin-url:4445/oauth2/introspect> \
  -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' \
  -d 'token=your-access-token'
Remember to replace
your-hydra-public-url
,
your-hydra-admin-url
,
your-client-id
,
your-client-secret
,
your-authorization-code
, and
your-refresh-token
with your actual values in all these requests.
Certainly! I'll provide you with the necessary configurations for both Ory Hydra and Oathkeeper to enable refresh token functionality, followed by the required HTTP curl requests. Let's break this down step by step: 1. Ory Hydra Configuration: First, you need to create an OAuth2 client in Hydra that supports refresh tokens:
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bash ory create oauth2-client \     --project your-project-id \     --name "My Client" \     --grant-type authorization_code,refresh_token \     --response-type code \     --scope openid,offline_access \     --redirect-uri <http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback>
Make sure to replace
your-project-id
with your actual project ID. 2. Oathkeeper Configuration: In your Oathkeeper configuration file (e.g.,
oathkeeper.yml
), add the following to enable OAuth2 introspection:
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yaml authenticators:   oauth2_introspection:     enabled: true     config:       introspection_url: <http://your-hydra-admin-url:4445/oauth2/introspect>       scope_strategy: exact       required_scope:         - openid         - offline_access
Replace
your-hydra-admin-url
with the actual URL of your Hydra admin API. Now, let's go through the HTTP curl requests needed to obtain and use a refresh token: 3. Initiate Authorization Code Flow:
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bash curl -X GET \   '<https://your-hydra-public-url/oauth2/auth?response_type=code&client_id=your-client-id&redirect_uri=http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback&scope=openid%20offline_access&state=some-random-state>'
This will return a redirect URL. Open this URL in a browser, log in, and authorize the application. You'll be redirected to your callback URL with the authorization code. 4. Exchange Authorization Code for Tokens:
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bash curl -X POST \   <https://your-hydra-public-url/oauth2/token> \   -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' \   -d 'grant_type=authorization_code' \   -d 'client_id=your-client-id' \   -d 'client_secret=your-client-secret' \   -d 'code=your-authorization-code' \   -d 'redirect_uri=<http://127.0.0.1:5555/callback>'
This will return an access token and a refresh token. 5. Use Refresh Token to Get New Access Token:
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bash curl -X POST \   <https://your-hydra-public-url/oauth2/token> \   -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' \   -d 'grant_type=refresh_token' \   -d 'client_id=your-client-id' \   -d 'client_secret=your-client-secret' \   -d 'refresh_token=your-refresh-token'
This will return a new access token and possibly a new refresh token. 6. Introspect Token (can be done through Oathkeeper):
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bash curl -X POST \   <http://your-hydra-admin-url:4445/oauth2/introspect> \   -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' \   -d 'token=your-access-token'
Remember to replace
your-hydra-public-url
,
your-hydra-admin-url
,
your-client-id
,
your-client-secret
,
your-authorization-code
, and
your-refresh-token
with your actual values in all these requests. These configurations and requests will allow you to obtain and use refresh tokens with Ory Hydra and Oathkeeper. For more detailed information, you can refer to the [Ory OAuth2 Refresh Token Grant documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/refresh-token-grant) and the [Ory Oathkeeper OAuth2 Introspection documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#oauth2_introspection). [Ory OAuth2 Refresh Token Grant](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/refresh-token-grant) [Ory Oathkeeper OAuth2 Introspection](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#oauth2_introspection)
c
@chilly-king-10285 I need this for oauth2 . Is there another way where I don't have to login as human user?
b
A message from kapa.ai
Yes, there is another way to obtain OAuth2 tokens without requiring human user interaction. This is called the Client Credentials Grant flow, which is designed for machine-to-machine authentication. This flow is suitable when the client (usually a service or application) is acting on its own behalf rather than on behalf of a user. Here's how you can set up and use the Client Credentials Grant with Ory Hydra: 1. Create an OAuth2 client with the client credentials grant type:
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bash ory create oauth2-client --project "$PROJECT_ID" \   --name "Client Credentials Demo" \   --grant-type client_credentials
2. Once you've created the client, you'll receive a client ID and client secret. You can then use these to request an access token directly, without any user interaction:
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bash curl -X POST \   <https://your-project.projects.oryapis.com/oauth2/token> \   -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' \   -d 'grant_type=client_credentials' \   -d 'client_id=your-client-id' \   -d 'client_secret=your-client-secret' \   -d 'scope=read'
Replace
<http://your-project.projects.oryapis.com|your-project.projects.oryapis.com>
with your Ory Hydra instance URL, and use the actual client ID and secret you received when creating the client. This request will return an access token that you can use to access protected resources. Note that this flow does not provide refresh tokens, as it's designed for short-lived access tokens in machine-to-machine scenarios. You can then use this access token in your API requests or introspect it as needed:
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bash curl -X POST \   <http://your-hydra-admin-url:4445/oauth2/introspect> \   -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' \   -d 'token=your-access-token'
This approach allows you to obtain OAuth2 tokens programmatically without any human interaction, which is ideal for automated processes or services. For more detailed information on the Client Credentials flow, you can refer to the [Ory OAuth2 Client Credentials Flow documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/client-credentials). [Run your own OAuth2 Server](https://www.ory.sh/run-oauth2-server-open-source-api-security/#oauth2-client-credentials-grant--machine-to-machine) [Ory OAuth2 Client Credentials Flow](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/client-credentials)
c
@chilly-king-10285 but this doesn't get me a refresh token. Please update your latest answer so that I get a refresh token without having to login as human.
b
A message from kapa.ai
I apologize for the confusion in my previous answer. You're correct that the Client Credentials Grant does not provide refresh tokens. Unfortunately, there isn't a way to obtain a refresh token without some form of user interaction in standard OAuth2 flows. Refresh tokens are typically associated with user sessions and are designed to maintain long-term access on behalf of a user. However, for machine-to-machine scenarios where you need long-lived access without user interaction, there are a couple of alternatives you can consider: 1. Use long-lived access tokens: You can configure Ory Hydra to issue access tokens with a longer lifespan. This isn't ideal from a security perspective but might be suitable for some use cases. 2. Implement token rotation: Instead of using refresh tokens, you can implement a token rotation mechanism where you request a new access token before the current one expires. Here's how you can implement token rotation using the Client Credentials Grant: 1. Create an OAuth2 client with the client credentials grant type:
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bash ory create oauth2-client --project "$PROJECT_ID" \   --name "Client Credentials Demo" \   --grant-type client_credentials
2. Request an access token:
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bash curl -X POST \   <https://your-project.projects.oryapis.com/oauth2/token> \   -H 'Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' \   -d 'grant_type=client_credentials' \   -d 'client_id=your-client-id' \   -d 'client_secret=your-client-secret' \   -d 'scope=read'
3. In your application, implement logic to request a new access token before the current one expires. You can do this by checking the
expires_in
value in the token response and scheduling a new token request accordingly. This approach allows you to maintain continuous access without user interaction, effectively mimicking the behavior of refresh tokens in machine-to-machine scenarios. It's important to note that this method is not a standard OAuth2 flow and doesn't provide the same security benefits as using refresh tokens. Always ensure you're following best practices for securing your client credentials and access tokens. For more information on OAuth2 flows and token management in Ory Hydra, you can refer to the [Ory OAuth2 & OpenID Connect documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/). [Ory OAuth2 & OpenID Connect](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/)