<@U04UQ68083H> How do I create an access token for...
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@chilly-king-10285 How do I create an access token for use with the Http Api with Kratos self hosted
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A message from kapa.ai
To create an access token for use with the HTTP API in a self-hosted Kratos environment, you need to follow the login flow for API clients. Here's how you can do it: 1. Initialize the login flow for API clients by making a GET request to the API flow initialization endpoint:
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curl -s -X GET \     -H "Accept: application/json" \     <https://your-kratos-instance/self-service/login/api>
2. This will return a JSON response containing a
ui.action
URL and other flow details. 3. Complete the login flow by sending a POST request to the
ui.action
URL with the required credentials:
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curl -s -X POST -H "Accept: application/json" -H "Content-Type: application/json" \     -d '{"identifier": "<mailto:user@example.com|user@example.com>", "password": "your_password", "method": "password"}' \     "<https://your-kratos-instance/self-service/login?flow=<flow_id>>"
4. If the login is successful, you'll receive a response containing a
session_token
. This session token can be used as an access token for authenticating API requests. Here's an example of how the response might look:
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json {   "session_token": "your_session_token_here",   "session": {     "id": "session_id",     "active": true,     "expires_at": "expiration_timestamp",     "authenticated_at": "authentication_timestamp",     "issued_at": "issuance_timestamp",     "identity": {       // Identity details     }   } }
You can then use this
session_token
as a bearer token in the
Authorization
header for subsequent API requests that require authentication. For more detailed information, you can refer to the [Login for API Clients documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/self-service/flows/user-login#login-for-api-clients-and-clients-without-browsers). Remember to replace
<https://your-kratos-instance>
with the actual URL of your self-hosted Kratos instance.
m
Would doing this give me access to admin endpoints?
@chilly-king-10285 Would doing this give me access to admin endpoints?
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A message from kapa.ai
The login flow you've described for obtaining a session token does not provide access to admin endpoints in Ory Kratos. Here's why: 1. The session token obtained through the login flow is associated with a regular user session, not an administrative one. 2. According to the [Kratos API Reference](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/reference/api), administrative APIs like
IdentityApi
are separate from the frontend APIs that use session tokens: "Only the
FrontendApi
needs to access the Ory Tunnel. Administrative APIs like
IdentityApi
can be accessed directly from your project slug, although they also work via the Ory Tunnel." 3. The session token is primarily used for authenticating regular user actions and accessing user-specific endpoints, not administrative functions. To access admin endpoints, you would typically need separate administrative credentials or API keys, which are not obtained through the regular login flow. The knowledge sources provided don't contain specific information about how to access admin endpoints in a self-hosted Kratos environment. If you need to perform administrative actions, you should consult the Ory Kratos documentation for information on how to set up and use administrative access in your self-hosted environment. This might involve different authentication mechanisms or dedicated admin APIs that are separate from the regular user authentication flow.
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@chilly-king-10285 How do I create an access token for use with admin Http Apis with Kratos self hosted
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A message from kapa.ai
Based on the information provided in the knowledge sources, there isn't a specific method described for creating an access token for admin HTTP APIs in a self-hosted Kratos environment. However, I can provide some relevant information about API authentication for Ory products: 1. For Ory Network (the cloud offering), API Keys are used to authorize privileged operations on Admin APIs. These are created in the Ory Console and have a prefix of
ory_apikey_
or
ory_pat_
[API Key Creation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/guides/manage-project-via-api#create-project-api-token). 2. The Kratos API Reference indicates that admin endpoints require authentication, but it doesn't specify the exact method for self-hosted environments [Kratos API Authentication](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/reference/api). 3. Ory uses different token formats for various purposes, but none of the described formats explicitly mention admin API access for self-hosted Kratos [Token Formats](https://www.ory.sh/docs/security-compliance/token-formats). Given this information, for a self-hosted Kratos environment, you might need to: 1. Check the Kratos configuration documentation for any settings related to admin API access. 2. Look into how your self-hosted Kratos instance is set up, as there might be environment-specific authentication methods. 3. Consider implementing a custom authentication mechanism for admin APIs if one is not provided out-of-the-box. Unfortunately, the knowledge sources don't provide a clear, step-by-step process for creating an admin API access token in a self-hosted Kratos environment. You may need to consult additional Ory documentation or reach out to Ory support for more specific guidance on this topic.
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And the real answer is when self hosted there is no authentication 😖 which now makes sense but would have been nice to have documented