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@chilly-king-10285 How can I handle guest identities with ory?
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A message from kapa.ai
To handle guest identities with Ory, you can use the
anonymous
authenticator provided by Ory Oathkeeper. This authenticator allows you to set up a system where unauthenticated users are treated as anonymous or guest users. Here's how you can implement this: 1. Enable the
anonymous
authenticator in your Oathkeeper configuration:
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yaml authenticators:   anonymous:     enabled: true     config:       subject: guest
2. Set up an access rule that uses the
anonymous
authenticator. This rule will allow all requests to a specific route and set the subject name to the anonymous username (in this case, "guest") when no
Authorization
header is present in the HTTP request:
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json {   "id": "some-id",   "upstream": {     "url": "<http://my-backend-service>"   },   "match": {     "url": "<http://my-app/some-route>",     "methods": [       "GET"     ]   },   "authenticators": [{     "handler": "anonymous"   }],   "authorizer": { "handler": "allow" },   "mutators": [{ "handler": "noop" }] }
With this configuration, requests without an
Authorization
header will be treated as guest users, with the subject set to "guest" (or whatever value you specify in the
subject
field). It's important to note that if an
Authorization
header is present, the request will be rejected, as only the anonymous authenticator is enabled for this URL. [Oathkeeper Anonymous Authenticator](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#anonymous) This approach allows you to handle guest identities in a secure and controlled manner within your Ory-powered application.
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@chilly-king-10285 Let me rephrase. How can I handle guest identities using ory in witch I can keep track of some activities information done by each user before logging in and persist this information after logging in?
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A message from kapa.ai
I apologize for the misunderstanding in my previous answer. Let me provide a more relevant response to your question about handling guest identities in Ory while tracking activities before login and persisting that information after login. Ory doesn't have a built-in feature specifically for guest identities with activity tracking. However, you can implement this functionality using a combination of Ory's identity management features and your own application logic. Here's an approach you could consider: 1. Create temporary identities: When a guest user starts interacting with your system, create a temporary identity in Ory using the admin API. You can use the [POST /admin/identities](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/manage-identities/managing-users-identities-metadata#metadata) endpoint to create these identities. 2. Use metadata to track activities: Ory allows you to store metadata for each identity. You can use this feature to keep track of the guest user's activities. Specifically, you can use the
metadata_public
field to store this information [Identity metadata & traits](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/manage-identities/managing-users-identities-metadata#metadata). 3. Update metadata as the user performs actions: As the guest user interacts with your system, update the metadata using the Ory API to reflect their activities. 4. Link the temporary identity to a permanent one: When the user decides to register or log in, you can link the temporary identity to their permanent identity. This can be done by copying the metadata from the temporary identity to the permanent one. Here's a general workflow you could follow: 1. When a new guest user arrives, create a temporary identity:
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POST /admin/identities
{
  "schema_id": "default",
  "traits": {
    "email": "<mailto:guest_user@example.com|guest_user@example.com>"
  },
  "metadata_public": {
    "is_guest": true,
    "activities": []
  }
}
2. As the user performs actions, update the metadata:
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PUT /admin/identities/{id}
{
  "metadata_public": {
    "is_guest": true,
    "activities": [
      {"action": "viewed_product", "product_id": "123"},
      {"action": "added_to_cart", "product_id": "456"}
    ]
  }
}
3. When the user registers or logs in, create a new permanent identity or update an existing one, and copy the activities from the temporary identity:
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PUT /admin/identities/{permanent_id}
{
  "metadata_public": {
    "is_guest": false,
    "activities": [
      {"action": "viewed_product", "product_id": "123"},
      {"action": "added_to_cart", "product_id": "456"}
    ]
  }
}
4. After successfully linking the data, you can delete the temporary identity. Remember that this approach requires careful management of identities and proper security measures to ensure that guest activities can't be maliciously associated with the wrong permanent identity.
I apologize for the misunderstanding in my previous answer. Let me provide a more relevant response to your question about handling guest identities in Ory while tracking activities before login and persisting that information after login. Ory doesn't have a built-in feature specifically for guest identities with activity tracking. However, you can implement this functionality using a combination of Ory's identity management features and your own application logic. Here's an approach you could consider: 1. Create temporary identities: When a guest user starts interacting with your system, create a temporary identity in Ory using the admin API. You can use the [POST /admin/identities](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/manage-identities/managing-users-identities-metadata#metadata) endpoint to create these identities. 2. Use metadata to track activities: Ory allows you to store metadata for each identity. You can use this feature to keep track of the guest user's activities. Specifically, you can use the
metadata_public
field to store this information [Identity metadata & traits](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/manage-identities/managing-users-identities-metadata#metadata). 3. Update metadata as the user performs actions: As the guest user interacts with your system, update the metadata using the Ory API to reflect their activities. 4. Link the temporary identity to a permanent one: When the user decides to register or log in, you can link the temporary identity to their permanent identity. This can be done by copying the metadata from the temporary identity to the permanent one. Here's a general workflow you could follow: 1. When a new guest user arrives, create a temporary identity:
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POST /admin/identities {   "schema_id": "default",   "traits": {     "email": "<mailto:guest_user@example.com|guest_user@example.com>"   },   "metadata_public": {     "is_guest": true,     "activities": []   } }
2. As the user performs actions, update the metadata:
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PUT /admin/identities/{id} {   "metadata_public": {     "is_guest": true,     "activities": [       {"action": "viewed_product", "product_id": "123"},       {"action": "added_to_cart", "product_id": "456"}     ]   } }
3. When the user registers or logs in, create a new permanent identity or update an existing one, and copy the activities from the temporary identity:
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PUT /admin/identities/{permanent_id} {   "metadata_public": {     "is_guest": false,     "activities": [       {"action": "viewed_product", "product_id": "123"},       {"action": "added_to_cart", "product_id": "456"}     ]   } }
4. After successfully linking the data, you can delete the temporary identity. Remember that this approach requires careful management of identities and proper security measures to ensure that guest activities can't be maliciously associated with the wrong permanent identity. Also, note that while this method allows you to track guest activities, it's important to comply with relevant data protection regulations and obtain necessary consents for data collection and processing. [Identity model](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/manage-identities/overview) This solution isn't a built-in feature of Ory, but rather a way to leverage Ory's identity management capabilities to implement guest identity tracking. You'll need to implement most of the logic in your application to manage the creation, updating, and linking of these identities.
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@chilly-king-10285 I'm now trying to create a new identity using HTTP request. I'm using client_id and client_secret in basic auth header. But when I send this request to kratos, it looks like I can create identity even without
Authorization
header. I also tried to send the HTTP request to kratos through oathkeeper, so I added
- handler: client_credentials
in
authenticators
of kratos admin access rules. But then the request to oathkeeper returns access code 500 with the message "requested pipeline handler does not exist". How can I fix this?
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A message from kapa.ai
Based on the information provided in the knowledge sources and your question, I can offer some clarification and guidance on your issue with creating identities in Ory Kratos and using Ory Oathkeeper for authentication. First, regarding creating identities in Kratos without an
Authorization
header: You're correct that the Kratos Admin API for creating identities requires authentication. According to the [Kratos API Reference](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/reference/api), the
createIdentity
endpoint should be authenticated using an Ory Access Token. The fact that you can create identities without authentication suggests that your Kratos instance might not be properly configured for secure admin access. To secure your Kratos Admin API, you should ensure that you're using the correct authentication method. The API reference indicates that you should use the
oryAccessToken
authentication method, not client credentials. Regarding your attempt to use Oathkeeper with the
client_credentials
handler: The error you're encountering ("requested pipeline handler does not exist") suggests that Oathkeeper doesn't recognize the
client_credentials
handler. This is because Oathkeeper doesn't have a built-in
client_credentials
handler. Instead, Oathkeeper provides an
oauth2_client_credentials
authenticator that you can use for OAuth 2.0 Client Credentials flow. Here's how you can fix this: 1. Update your Oathkeeper configuration to use the correct handler:
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yaml authenticators:   - handler: oauth2_client_credentials     config:       token_url: "<https://your-oauth-server.com/oauth2/token>"
2. Ensure that your OAuth2 client is properly configured. You can create a client for the Client Credentials flow using the Ory CLI:
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ory create oauth2-client --project "$PROJECT_ID" \   --name "Client Credentials Demo" \   --grant-type client_credentials
3. When making requests to Oathkeeper, include your client credentials in the
Authorization
header as Basic Auth. [Oathkeeper OAuth2 Client Credentials](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#oauth2_client_credentials) Remember, this setup is for authenticating requests to Oathkeeper using the OAuth 2.0 Client Credentials flow. For securing the Kratos Admin API itself, you should use the authentication method specified in the Kratos documentation, which is the Ory Access Token. If you're trying to secure access to Kratos Admin API through Oathkeeper, you'll need to ensure that Oathkeeper is properly configured to forward the authenticated requests to Kratos, and that Kratos is set up to accept the authentication provided by Oathkeeper. Given the complexity of your setup, you might want to review your overall architecture and ensure that each component (Kratos, Oathkeeper, and your OAuth server) is correctly configured and integrated.