<@U04UQ68083H> i am trying to setup oauthkeepr a...
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@chilly-king-10285 i am trying to setup oauthkeepr as a proxy betwwen my app. How will it connect to ory kratos running on the 4433(public) and 4434(admin).
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how will check if user can be authorized using the jwt token
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To set up Ory Oathkeeper as a proxy between your app and Ory Kratos, you'll need to configure Oathkeeper to forward requests to the appropriate Kratos endpoints. Here's how you can connect Oathkeeper to Kratos running on ports 4433 (public) and 4434 (admin): 1. First, ensure that both Ory Kratos and Ory Oathkeeper are running. You can use Docker Compose to start them together, as shown in this [Kratos guide](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/guides/zero-trust-iap-proxy-identity-access-proxy#running-ory-kratos-and-the-ory-oathkeeper-identity-and-access-proxy):
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bash docker-compose \   -f quickstart.yml \   -f quickstart-oathkeeper.yml \   up --build --force-recreate
2. In your Oathkeeper configuration, you'll need to set up rules that define how requests should be proxied to Kratos. Here's an example of how you might configure a rule in Oathkeeper to forward requests to Kratos' public API [Oathkeeper guide](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper#reverse-proxy-example):
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json {   "id": "kratos-public-api",   "upstream": {     "url": "<http://kratos:4433>"   },   "match": {     "url": "http://<oathkeeper-host>:<oathkeeper-port>/<path-to-kratos-public-api>",     "methods": ["GET", "POST", "PUT", "DELETE"]   },   "authenticators": [     {       "handler": "noop"     }   ],   "authorizer": {     "handler": "allow"   },   "mutators": [     {       "handler": "noop"     }   ] }
3. Similarly, you can set up a rule for the admin API, but you should be careful to restrict access to it. Here's an example:
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json {   "id": "kratos-admin-api",   "upstream": {     "url": "<http://kratos:4434>"   },   "match": {     "url": "http://<oathkeeper-host>:<oathkeeper-port>/admin/<path-to-kratos-admin-api>",     "methods": ["GET", "POST", "PUT", "DELETE"]   },   "authenticators": [     {       "handler": "oauth2_introspection"     }   ],   "authorizer": {     "handler": "allow"   },   "mutators": [     {       "handler": "noop"     }   ] }
4. Make sure your Oathkeeper is configured to listen on the appropriate ports. As mentioned in the [Oathkeeper documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper#operating-modes), Oathkeeper exposes two ports: one for the reverse proxy and one for its API. 5. In your application, you would then make requests to Oathkeeper's proxy port instead of directly to Kratos. Oathkeeper will handle the forwarding to the appropriate Kratos endpoint based on the rules you've defined. Remember to replace
<oathkeeper-host>
,
<oathkeeper-port>
, and
<path-to-kratos-public-api>
with your actual values. Also, ensure that the network setup allows Oathkeeper to reach Kratos on the specified ports. For more detailed configuration options and best practices, refer to the [Ory Oathkeeper documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper) and the [Ory Kratos documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/guides/zero-trust-iap-proxy-identity-access-proxy).
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no I mean to ask even for any url on the localhost:3000 for which I will have match rules to be the same for the how will ory oauthkeeper check with the kratos @chilly-king-10285
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A message from kapa.ai
I apologize for the misunderstanding. Let me clarify how Ory Oathkeeper can check with Ory Kratos for requests coming to localhost:3000. When you're running your application on localhost:3000 and want Ory Oathkeeper to authenticate requests using Ory Kratos, you'll need to set up a specific authenticator in your Oathkeeper rules. The most common authenticator for this scenario is the
cookie_session
authenticator. Here's how you can configure Ory Oathkeeper to check with Kratos for any URL on localhost3000 1. First, set up an access rule in Oathkeeper that matches all requests to your application. Here's an example [from the Oathkeeper documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/configure-deploy#access-rules):
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yaml
- id: "my-app-rule"
  upstream:
    url: "<http://localhost:3000>"
  match:
    url: "http://<127.0.0.1|localhost>:4455/<**>"
    methods:
      - GET
      - POST
      - PUT
      - DELETE
      - PATCH
  authenticators:
    - handler: cookie_session
  authorizer:
    handler: allow
  mutators:
    - handler: noop
2. In this rule, the
cookie_session
authenticator is crucial. It needs to be configured to check with Kratos. Here's how you can set it up in your Oathkeeper configuration [as shown in the Kratos documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/guides/zero-trust-iap-proxy-identity-access-proxy#configuration):
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yaml
authenticators:
  cookie_session:
    enabled: true
    config:
      check_session_url: <http://kratos:4433/sessions/whoami>
      preserve_path: true
      extra_from: "@this"
      subject_from: "identity.id"
      only:
        - ory_kratos_session
3. The
check_session_url
is the key here. It points to Kratos's
/sessions/whoami
endpoint, which Oathkeeper will use to validate the session cookie. 4. When a request comes to Oathkeeper (which should be listening on port 4455 as per the rule), it will: - Check if the request has the
ory_kratos_session
cookie. - If present, it will forward this cookie to Kratos's
/sessions/whoami
endpoint. - Kratos will validate the session and return the session information if valid. - Oathkeeper will then allow or deny the request based on this response. 5. Make sure your application is configured to send requests through Oathkeeper (on port 4455) instead of directly to localhost:3000. Remember, for this setup to work in a local development environment, you need to ensure that: - Kratos is running and accessible to Oathkeeper (usually on the same Docker network). - Your application, Oathkeeper, and Kratos are all configured to use the same domain for cookies (usually localhost for local development). For local development, you might also want to use the [Ory CLI Tunnel](https://www.ory.sh/docs/getting-started/local-development#local-development), which can help manage domain and cookie issues when working with Ory services locally.
I apologize for the misunderstanding. Let me clarify how Ory Oathkeeper can check with Ory Kratos for requests coming to localhost:3000. When you're running your application on localhost:3000 and want Ory Oathkeeper to authenticate requests using Ory Kratos, you'll need to set up a specific authenticator in your Oathkeeper rules. The most common authenticator for this scenario is the
cookie_session
authenticator. Here's how you can configure Ory Oathkeeper to check with Kratos for any URL on localhost3000 1. First, set up an access rule in Oathkeeper that matches all requests to your application. Here's an example [from the Oathkeeper documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/configure-deploy#access-rules):
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yaml - id: "my-app-rule"   upstream:     url: "<http://localhost:3000>"   match:     url: "http://<127.0.0.1|localhost>:4455/<**>"     methods:       - GET       - POST       - PUT       - DELETE       - PATCH   authenticators:     - handler: cookie_session   authorizer:     handler: allow   mutators:     - handler: noop
2. In this rule, the
cookie_session
authenticator is crucial. It needs to be configured to check with Kratos. Here's how you can set it up in your Oathkeeper configuration [as shown in the Kratos documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/guides/zero-trust-iap-proxy-identity-access-proxy#configuration):
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yaml authenticators:   cookie_session:     enabled: true     config:       check_session_url: <http://kratos:4433/sessions/whoami>       preserve_path: true       extra_from: "@this"       subject_from: "identity.id"       only:         - ory_kratos_session
3. The
check_session_url
is the key here. It points to Kratos's
/sessions/whoami
endpoint, which Oathkeeper will use to validate the session cookie. 4. When a request comes to Oathkeeper (which should be listening on port 4455 as per the rule), it will: - Check if the request has the
ory_kratos_session
cookie. - If present, it will forward this cookie to Kratos's
/sessions/whoami
endpoint. - Kratos will validate the session and return the session information if valid. - Oathkeeper will then allow or deny the request based on this response. 5. Make sure your application is configured to send requests through Oathkeeper (on port 4455) instead of directly to localhost:3000. Remember, for this setup to work in a local development environment, you need to ensure that: - Kratos is running and accessible to Oathkeeper (usually on the same Docker network). - Your application, Oathkeeper, and Kratos are all configured to use the same domain for cookies (usually localhost for local development). For local development, you might also want to use the [Ory CLI Tunnel](https://www.ory.sh/docs/getting-started/local-development#local-development), which can help manage domain and cookie issues when working with Ory services locally. This setup allows Oathkeeper to act as a proxy, checking every request with Kratos before forwarding it to your application on localhost:3000.
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instead of the cookie_session, can it be authorized using the jwt token @chilly-king-10285
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A message from kapa.ai
Yes, you can certainly use JWT (JSON Web Token) authorization instead of cookie-based sessions with Ory Oathkeeper. Oathkeeper provides a
jwt
authenticator that can validate JWT tokens. Here's how you can set it up: 1. First, you'll need to modify your Oathkeeper configuration to use the
jwt
authenticator. Here's an example configuration [from the Oathkeeper documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#jwt):
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yaml authenticators:   jwt:     enabled: true     config:       jwks_urls:         - <https://my-website.com/.well-known/jwks.json>       scope_strategy: none       required_scope:         - scope-a         - scope-b       target_audience:         - <https://my-service.com/api/users>       trusted_issuers:         - <https://my-issuer.com/>       allowed_algorithms:         - RS256       token_from:         header: Authorization
2. In your access rule, replace the
cookie_session
authenticator with the
jwt
authenticator:
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yaml - id: "my-app-rule"   upstream:     url: "<http://localhost:3000>"   match:     url: "http://<127.0.0.1|localhost>:4455/<**>"     methods:       - GET       - POST       - PUT       - DELETE       - PATCH   authenticators:     - handler: jwt   authorizer:     handler: allow   mutators:     - handler: noop
3. The
jwt
authenticator will look for the JWT in the
Authorization
header by default. You can customize this using the
token_from
configuration [as shown in the Oathkeeper documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oathkeeper/pipeline/authn#bearer_token-configuration):
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yaml token_from:   header: Authorization   # or   # query_parameter: auth-token   # or   # cookie: auth-token
4. Make sure your application is sending the JWT in the specified location (header, query parameter, or cookie) when making requests. 5. You'll need to ensure that the JWTs are being issued correctly, typically by Ory Kratos or another identity provider. Ory Kratos can be configured to issue JWTs for sessions. You can use the [Session to JWT feature](https://www.ory.sh/docs/identities/session-to-jwt-cors) to convert Ory Sessions to JWTs:
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javascript const session = await frontend.toSession({   tokenize_as: "jwt_example_template1", }) const jwt = session.tokenized
By using this approach, you can maintain the security benefits of Ory's session management while also leveraging the flexibility of JWTs for scenarios where cookies are not ideal, such as cross-origin requests or integration with certain third-party services. Remember to properly secure your JWTs and manage their lifecycle, including expiration and refresh mechanisms, as JWTs are typically stateless and can't be invalidated server-side like sessions can.