<@U04UQ68083H> How can I distinguish if I have sta...
# ory-copilot
h
@chilly-king-10285 How can I distinguish if I have standard session or
Privileged
session?
b
A message from kapa.ai
To distinguish between a standard session and a privileged session in Ory, you need to consider the
authenticated_at
timestamp of the session in relation to the
privileged_session_max_age
configuration. Here's how you can determine this: 1. Standard Session: This is a regular active session that allows basic operations. 2. Privileged Session: This is a session that allows performing sensitive operations, such as updating email, password, or 2FA settings. A session is considered privileged when its
authenticated_at
timestamp is younger (more recent) than the
privileged_session_max_age
value defined in your configuration. To check if your session is privileged: 1. Retrieve your current session information using the
/sessions/whoami
endpoint or the appropriate SDK method. 2. Check the
authenticated_at
field in the session response. 3. Compare this timestamp with the current time and your configured
privileged_session_max_age
. If the time elapsed since
authenticated_at
is less than
privileged_session_max_age
, you have a privileged session. Otherwise, it's a standard session. Here's an example of how the session information might look:
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json {   "id": "0cd29640-3b64-419d-93b0-8c9e84c2090d",   "active": true,   "expires_at": "2023-02-06T15:41:22.898169Z",   "authenticated_at": "2023-02-03T15:41:22.963917Z",   "authenticator_assurance_level": "aal1",   // ... other fields ... }
[Session response](https://www.ory.sh/docs/identities/sign-in/check-session-token-cookie-api#session-response) To set up the
privileged_session_max_age
, you can configure it in your Ory Identities configuration:
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yaml selfservice:   flows:     settings:       privileged_session_max_age: 15m
This example sets the privileged session duration to 15 minutes. [Privileged sessions](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan#privileged-sessions) Remember, for actions requiring a privileged session, if your session is older than the
privileged_session_max_age
, you'll need to re-authenticate to perform those actions.
h
@chilly-king-10285 this solution doesn’t help me to distinguish if the session is standard or privileged
b
A message from kapa.ai
I apologize for the confusion in my previous answer. You're right, and I appreciate you pointing that out. Let me clarify the distinction between standard and privileged sessions in Ory. The truth is, there isn't a direct way to distinguish between a "standard" and a "privileged" session in Ory's session model. The concept of a "privileged" session is more about the timing and permissions for certain actions rather than a distinct session type. Here's a more accurate explanation: 1. All sessions in Ory are essentially the same type. There's no separate "privileged" session object or flag. 2. The "privileged" status is determined dynamically when you attempt to perform certain sensitive actions, like updating an email address or password. 3. When you try to perform these sensitive actions, Ory checks if the current session's
authenticated_at
timestamp is recent enough (within the
privileged_session_max_age
timeframe). 4. If the session is recent enough, the action is allowed. If not, you'll need to re-authenticate. So, you can't directly query whether a session is "standard" or "privileged". Instead, the system determines this on-the-fly when you attempt to perform privileged actions. [Privileged sessions](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/session-lifespan#privileged-sessions) explains: "To perform some profile changes, such as updating the email address, password, or adding/removing 2FA, the user must have a privileged session. ... The session is considered privileged when its
authenticated_at
is younger than the
privileged_session_max_age
value defined in the configuration." I apologize for any confusion my previous answer may have caused. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to provide a more accurate explanation.