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@chilly-king-10285 can i make generic sso provider pass client and secret in authorization header?
c
A message from kapa.ai
Yes, you can make a generic SSO provider pass the client ID and secret in the Authorization header. This is a common mechanism for authenticating a client in the Client Credentials flow, known as Basic Authentication. In this mechanism, the client sends its client ID and client secret as part of the Authorization header in an HTTP request. The Authorization header contains a Base64-encoded string of
{URL-encoded-client-ID}:{URL-encoded-client-secret}
. Here is an example of how to create a client capable of using the Basic Authentication mechanism with the Ory CLI:
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bash ory create oauth2-client --project "$PROJECT_ID" \     --name "Client Credentials Demo" \     --grant-type client_credentials \     --token-endpoint-auth-method client_secret_basic
And here is an example of how to use the created client to obtain an access token using Basic Authentication:
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javascript const clientID = "the-client-id"   const clientSecret = "the-secret-id"   const basicAuth = bas64_encode(url_encode(clientID) + ":" + url_encode(clientSecret))      const requestOptions = {     method: "POST",     headers: {       Authorization: "Basic " + basicAuth,       "Content-Type": "application/x-www-form-urlencoded",     },     body: "grant_type=client_credentials&scope=read",   }      fetch("<https://your-project.projects.oryapis.com/oauth2/token>", requestOptions)     .then((response) => response.json())     .then((data) => console.log(data))
Please note that the client secret must be kept confidential and is used to authenticate the client to the authorization server. For more information, you can refer to the [Ory documentation on Basic Authentication](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/client-credentials#basic-authentication).
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@chilly-king-10285 how do i make this change in helm chart in values.yaml?
c
A message from kapa.ai
I'm sorry, but the provided knowledge sources do not contain specific information on how to pass client ID and secret in the Authorization header using a Helm chart in the
values.yaml
file. Helm charts are highly customizable and the way to configure them can vary greatly depending on the specific chart and the application it is deploying. Typically, you would set these values in the
values.yaml
file or pass them as arguments during the
helm install
or
helm upgrade
command. However, without specific information on the chart you are using, it's not possible to provide a more detailed answer. I recommend checking the documentation or README of the specific Helm chart you are using for more information on how to configure it. If you are using an Ory Helm chart, you can find more information in the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/).
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@chilly-king-10285 do i have to register generic provider to ory to make this change?
c
A message from kapa.ai
Yes, to integrate a generic social sign-in provider with Ory, you need to register the provider with Ory. This involves providing the necessary details such as the Client ID, Client Secret, and Issuer URL. You can do this through the Ory Console or the Ory CLI. Here are the steps to add a generic provider using the Ory Console: 1. Go to AuthenticationSocial Sign-In in the [Ory Console](https://console.ory.sh/projects/current/social-signin). 2. Click the Add A Generic Provider button. 3. Define the Provider name. This name is used for identification purposes only. 4. Paste the configuration details obtained from your social sign-in provider into the corresponding fields in the Console: - Client ID - Client Secret - Issuer URL 5. Copy the Redirect URI from the Console and add it to your provider's configuration. 6. Click Save Configuration to finish. And here are the steps to add a generic provider using the Ory CLI: 1. Create a client at your generic provider to get a Client ID and Client Secret. 2. Create a [Jsonnet code snippet](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/social-signin/generic#data-mapping) to map the desired claims to the Ory Identity schema. 3. Encode the Jsonnet snippet with [Base64](https://www.base64encode.org/) or host it under a URL accessible to Ory Network. 4. Download the Ory Identities config from your project and save it to a file. 5. Add the social sign-in provider configuration to the downloaded config. Add the Jsonnet snippet with mappings as a Base64 string or provide a URL to the file. 6. Update the Ory Identities configuration using the file you worked with. You can find more detailed instructions in the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/social-signin/generic).
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@chilly-king-10285 is there a way where i can customise openid-configuration in self hosting?
c
A message from kapa.ai
Yes, you can customize the OpenID configuration in a self-hosted Ory Hydra instance. The OpenID Connect (OIDC) configuration is typically exposed at the
/.well-known/openid-configuration
endpoint and provides information about the authorization server's configuration, including the URIs of the authorization, token, userinfo, and revocation endpoints among others. However, the customization of this configuration is not directly done by modifying the
/.well-known/openid-configuration
endpoint. Instead, you configure the various endpoints and other settings that make up the OIDC configuration when setting up your Ory Hydra instance. For example, in the case of integrating with GitLab, you manually specify the values for the
user_info_url
and other paths. These paths are by default the same paths which are specified by OpenID Connect. Here's an example of how you might do this:
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bash 'issuer' => '<http://127.0.0.1:4444/>',   'authorization_endpoint' => '<http://127.0.0.1:4444/oauth2/auth>',   'token_endpoint' => '<http://127.0.0.1:4444/oauth2/token>',   'jwks_uri' => '<http://127.0.0.1:4444/.well-known/jwks.json>',   'userinfo_endpoint' => '<http://127.0.0.1:4444/userinfo>',
You can find more information about this in the [Ory Hydra documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/hydra/self-hosted/gitlab#gitlab-configuration---oauth-2-setup). Please note that any changes to your Ory Hydra configuration should be done carefully and in accordance with the OpenID Connect specification to ensure the correct functioning of your authorization server.
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@chilly-king-10285 where can i specify this paths while using helm to deploy ?
c
A message from kapa.ai
When deploying Ory Hydra using Helm, you can specify these paths in the
values.yaml
file or as parameters during the
helm install
command. The
values.yaml
file is where you can set your own values that will override the default ones in the Helm chart. Here's an example of how you might specify these paths in the
values.yaml
file:
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yaml hydra:   config:     urls:       self:         issuer: <http://127.0.0.1:4444/>       login: <http://127.0.0.1:4444/oauth2/auth>       consent: <http://127.0.0.1:4444/oauth2/token>       logout: <http://127.0.0.1:4444/userinfo>
Alternatively, you can specify these paths as parameters during the
helm install
command. Here's an example:
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bash helm install ory/hydra \     --set 'hydra.config.urls.self.issuer=<http://127.0.0.1:4444/>' \     --set 'hydra.config.urls.login=<http://127.0.0.1:4444/oauth2/auth>' \     --set 'hydra.config.urls.consent=<http://127.0.0.1:4444/oauth2/token>' \     --set 'hydra.config.urls.logout=<http://127.0.0.1:4444/userinfo>'
Please note that these are just examples and you should replace the URLs with the actual URLs of your services. For more information, you can refer to the [Ory Hydra Helm Chart documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/hydra/self-hosted/kubernetes-helm-chart).
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@chilly-king-10285 how does ory hydra knows what token auth method to use when hitting token endpoint for generic provider?
c
A message from kapa.ai
Ory Hydra determines the token endpoint authentication method based on the configuration of the client. When you register a client, you can specify the
token_endpoint_auth_method
parameter. This parameter defines the client authentication method to be used at the token endpoint. The possible values for
token_endpoint_auth_method
are: - `client_secret_basic`: (default) Send
client_id
and
client_secret
as
application/x-www-form-urlencoded
encoded in the HTTP Authorization header. - `client_secret_post`: Send
client_id
and
client_secret
as
application/x-www-form-urlencoded
in the HTTP body. - `private_key_jwt`: Use JSON Web Tokens to authenticate the client. - `none`: Used for public clients (native apps, mobile apps) which cannot have secrets. If this parameter is not specified during client registration, Ory Hydra defaults to using
client_secret_basic
. You can find more information about this in the [Ory Hydra API documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/hydra/reference/api).
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@chilly-king-10285 how does ory hydra knows what token auth method to use when hitting token endpoint for generic sso login?
c
A message from kapa.ai
When integrating a generic SSO provider with Ory Hydra, the token endpoint authentication method is determined by the configuration of the OAuth 2.0 client in the SSO provider, not by Ory Hydra. When you register your application (the client) with the SSO provider, you specify the client authentication method that should be used when your application makes requests to the SSO provider's token endpoint. This is typically done in the SSO provider's dashboard or API when you create the client. The SSO provider's token endpoint then expects your application to authenticate itself using this method in each request. The method could be
client_secret_basic
(sending the client ID and secret in the
Authorization
header),
client_secret_post
(sending the client ID and secret in the body of the POST request), or another method supported by the SSO provider. Ory Hydra itself does not need to know or handle the token endpoint authentication method for the SSO provider. Instead, Ory Hydra interacts with the SSO provider through a callback URL. After the user authenticates with the SSO provider, the SSO provider redirects the user to this callback URL, passing an authorization code. Ory Hydra then exchanges this code for tokens by making a request to the SSO provider's token endpoint. For more information, you can refer to the [Ory Hydra documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/hydra/).
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@chilly-king-10285 kratos is hitting token endpoint with both client_secret_basic and client_secret_post. How can i restrict to only use client_secret_basic
c
A message from kapa.ai
In Ory Kratos, the method used for client authentication at the token endpoint is determined by the configuration of the OAuth2 client. This is specified by the
token_endpoint_auth_method
parameter when you register the client. If you want to restrict Ory Kratos to only use
client_secret_basic
, you need to set
token_endpoint_auth_method
to
client_secret_basic
when you register the client. Here's an example:
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json {   "client_id": "your-client-id",   "client_secret": "your-client-secret",   "token_endpoint_auth_method": "client_secret_basic" }
Please note that this is a simplified example and the actual request to register a client may require additional parameters. If you have already registered the client and want to change the
token_endpoint_auth_method
, you would typically do this through the API provided by your OAuth2 server. The exact method to do this can vary depending on the server you are using. For more information, you can refer to the [Ory Kratos API documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/reference/api).
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@chilly-king-10285 I'm using a generic provider which support only client_secret_basic but kratos is hitting with both basic and post
c
A message from kapa.ai
Ory Kratos uses the
token_endpoint_auth_method
parameter to determine the client authentication method for the token endpoint. However, the current version of Ory Kratos does not provide a direct way to set this parameter for a generic provider in the configuration file. If you're facing issues with Kratos sending both
client_secret_basic
and
client_secret_post
methods, it might be due to a misconfiguration or a limitation in the current version of Ory Kratos. As a workaround, you might need to modify the source code of Ory Kratos to enforce the
client_secret_basic
method. This would involve changing the OAuth2 client that Kratos uses to communicate with the generic provider. Please note that modifying the source code should be done carefully and is generally recommended only for advanced users who are comfortable with Go programming and the internals of Ory Kratos. For more information or assistance, consider reaching out to the Ory Community or opening an issue in the [Ory Kratos GitHub repository](https://github.com/ory/kratos/issues).
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@chilly-king-10285 what should be the response format for kratos token endpoint for generic provider
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A message from kapa.ai
The response format for the token endpoint of a generic provider that Ory Kratos interacts with should follow the standard OAuth 2.0 token response format. This is typically a JSON object that includes an access token, token type, and optional fields like refresh token, scope, and expires in. Here's an example:
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json {   "access_token": "2YotnFZFEjr1zCsicMWpAA",   "token_type": "example",   "expires_in": 3600,   "refresh_token": "tGzv3JOkF0XG5Qx2TlKWIA",   "scope": "example" }
- `access_token`: The access token issued by the authorization server. - `token_type`: The type of the token. Typically, this field will be set to "Bearer". - `expires_in`: (optional) The lifetime in seconds of the access token. - `refresh_token`: (optional) The refresh token, which can be used to obtain new access tokens. - `scope`: (optional) The scope of the access token. Please note that the actual fields and their values will depend on the specific implementation of the generic provider. For more information, you can refer to the [OAuth 2.0 specification](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-5.1).
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@chilly-king-10285 when using generic sso for login.. does kratos needs access token when getting response from IDP or only id_token is fine?
c
A message from kapa.ai
When using a generic SSO provider for login, Ory Kratos primarily needs the
id_token
from the Identity Provider (IdP). The
id_token
is a JWT that contains user profile information (like the user's name, email, and so forth), which Ory Kratos uses to authenticate the user. The
access_token
is not primarily needed for the authentication process. However, it might be required if you want to access protected resources on the user's behalf after authentication. For example, if you want to call APIs that require user authorization, you would use the
access_token
. If you only need to authenticate the user and don't need to access protected resources afterward, the
id_token
should be sufficient. For more information, you can refer to the [Ory Kratos documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/).
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@chilly-king-10285 which service handle authorization flow for generic sso provider?
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A message from kapa.ai
The service that handles the authorization flow for a generic SSO provider is Ory Kratos. Ory Kratos is responsible for managing the entire user login flow, including initiating the OAuth2/OIDC flow with the SSO provider, redirecting the user to the SSO provider for authentication, and handling the callback from the SSO provider with the authorization code. When you configure a generic SSO provider in Ory Kratos, you specify the details of the provider, such as the client ID, client secret, and issuer URL. Kratos uses these details to construct the authorization URL and token URL for the OAuth2/OIDC flow. Here's an example of how you might configure a generic SSO provider in Kratos:
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yaml selfservice:   methods:     oidc:       config:         providers:           - id: generic             provider: generic             client_id: ....             client_secret: ....             issuer_url: <https://accounts.google.com>             mapper_url: "base64://{YOUR_BASE64_ENCODED_JSONNET_HERE}"             scope:               - email             claims_source: id_token       enabled: true
For more information, you can refer to the [Ory Kratos documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/).
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@chilly-king-10285 once a authorization code is received who initiates exchange code for token flow?
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Once an authorization code is received, it is the client application that initiates the exchange of the authorization code for an access token. This is done by making a POST request to the token endpoint of the authorization server (or SSO provider). Here's an example of how this might be done in JavaScript:
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javascript const code = "authorization_code_received_from_auth_server"   const tokenUrl = "https://$<http://PROJECT_SLUG.projects.oryapis.com/oauth2/token|PROJECT_SLUG.projects.oryapis.com/oauth2/token>"   const requestBody = `grant_type=authorization_code&client_id=${clientId}&client_secret=${clientSecret}&code=${code}&redirect_uri=<https://myapp.com/callback>`      fetch(tokenUrl, {     method: "POST",     headers: { "Content-Type": "application/x-www-form-urlencoded" },     body: requestBody,   })     .then((response) => response.json())     .then((data) => console.log(data))     .catch((error) => console.error(error))
In this example, the client application sends a POST request to the token endpoint with the following parameters: - `grant_type`: This should be set to
authorization_code
to indicate that the authorization code will be exchanged for an access token. - `client_id`: The ID of the client that is making the request. - `client_secret`: The client secret that is used to authenticate the client. - `code`: The authorization code that was received. - `redirect_uri`: The URL where the Authorization Server redirected the user after they granted permission. The Authorization Server validates the request and responds with an access token and a refresh token (if enabled). The client application can then use the access token to access the protected resource. For more information, you can refer to the [Ory documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/oauth2-oidc/authorization-code-flow#step-4-exchange-code-for-token).
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@chilly-king-10285 in generic sso provider once a authorization code is received who initiates exchange code for token flow?
c
A message from kapa.ai
In the context of a generic SSO provider, once an authorization code is received, it is Ory Kratos that initiates the exchange of the authorization code for an access token. This is part of the OAuth2/OIDC flow that Kratos manages when you use a generic SSO provider for login. Kratos makes a POST request to the token endpoint of the SSO provider, sending the authorization code and other required parameters. The SSO provider validates the request and responds with an access token (and optionally an ID token and a refresh token). Kratos then uses the tokens to authenticate the user. For more information, you can refer to the [Ory Kratos documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/).
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@chilly-king-10285 why don't i see any token call in logs of kratos pods
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A message from kapa.ai
If you don't see any token calls in the logs of your Ory Kratos pods, it could be due to several reasons: 1. Log Level: The log level of your Ory Kratos configuration might be set to a level that does not include the token calls. You can adjust the log level in your Kratos configuration to ensure it includes more detailed information. 2. Successful Calls: By default, Ory Kratos might not log successful token calls. If the calls to the token endpoint are successful and you're not seeing them in the logs, this might be the reason. 3. Error in Configuration: There might be an error in your configuration of the generic SSO provider. If Kratos is not correctly configured to initiate the token exchange, you would not see the token calls in the logs. 4. No Calls Being Made: If no users are attempting to authenticate via the generic SSO provider, or if the authorization flow is not reaching the point where the token exchange is initiated, you would not see any token calls in the logs. To troubleshoot this issue, you could start by increasing the log level in your Kratos configuration and then testing the login flow with the generic SSO provider to see if any token calls appear in the logs. For more information, you can refer to the [Ory Kratos documentation](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/).