Hey everyone, Does anyone have an example of inte...
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m
Hey everyone, Does anyone have an example of integrating Keto with an application database so queries only load the authorized data? I feel like I’ve missed something in my thinking on how to integrate this, so far I have this flow: imagine a recipe database 1. Request list of all recipes (id) the identity has access to from Keto 2. query the database with
SELECT * FROM recipes WHERE id IN (<list of ids from keto>)
This seems like an incredibly slow solution for larger more complicated queries, and also really awkward to maintain in source code, so I feel like I’m missing something fundamental here, anyone have a better approach?
b
I think that has nothing to do with keto directly. There should be a additional column in your recipe table, e.g. user_id. You have to add the user_id for each entry in the table. Then you can query by the user_id
Keto is not responsible for identifying the correct rows from the database. It is responsible to check if a user is allowed to do a certain request. For example is the user allowed to create a recipe. This check runs before hitting your backend or even the database
m
Okay, so the granularity is higher, e.g. is the user allowed to list the recipes, not which recipes does the user have access to? I must have not understood it right, cos the docs point to ‘does the user have access to a specific document’ as an example https://www.ory.sh/docs/keto/modeling/create-permission-model#determine-relationships-between-objects
A read on an individual object is easy to check before going to the database, same with a write Where it falls apart for me is when you are working with groups of objects
Like loading all the recipes that a user has
viewer
access to
b
yeah. Your “Object” is the Item in the Database. Your “Subject” is the user_id. Your relation for the access (SELECT * FORM) is for example “access”
m
Thanks for the help, I’m still a bit lost, so looking for an example I know I’m moving the goalpost a bit here, but it’s probably important to specify. How the user got access to the recipe in this example doesn’t matter, it might be shared with them from a different user, or they might have access through a parent object. You can do it with using
IN
in the query, but it feels like it will have a pretty big performance impact on the db if the list of objects is large. So hoping there are some smarter people out there that can show me the way
g
I'm running up against the same problem now as well! what did you end up going with? In your example case I think it would probably be fine if the list of recipes is relatively small and you use the values subquery a la https://dba.stackexchange.com/a/91539, but i wonder what the performance implications are with Keto if the returned list gets large as well. I dont have an easy identifier i can use to determine who should have what results returned from a list so using an IN query is looking like the only way to go for me