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@chilly-king-10285 how do i check if a user has totp enabled ?
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A message from kapa.ai
When a user enables Time-based One-Time Passwords (TOTP) in Ory, certain entries are added to the 
credentials
object of the associated Identity. Specifically, an 
id
with the value 
totp
is added under 
password
. Here's an example of what the 
credentials
object might look like:
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json credentials:     password:       id: totp       identifiers:         - 802471b9-06f5-49d4-a88d-5e7d6bcfed22       config:         totp_url: <otpauth://totp/Example:[[email> protected]](<https://www.ory.sh/cdn-cgi/l/email-protection>)?secret=JBSWY3DPEHPK3PXP&issuer=Example
The 
totp_url
contains the pre-shared key and some additional meta-information. If these entries exist in the 
credentials
object for a user, it means that the user has TOTP enabled. However, the exact method to check this would depend on how you're interacting with Ory. If you're using the Ory CLI, you might need to use a command to fetch the identity configuration and check the 
credentials
object. If you're using the Ory API, you might need to make a request to an endpoint that returns the identity configuration. Please note that this is a general explanation based on the information provided in the [knowledge source](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/mfa/totp#identity-credentials). The exact details might vary depending on your specific setup and configuration.
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@chilly-king-10285 selfservice: default_browser_return_url: http://localhost:3000/ allowed_return_urls: - http://127.0.0.1:4455/ - http://localhost:3000/ methods: oidc: enabled: false webauthn: enabled: false totp: enabled: true code: passwordless_enabled: true enabled: true config: # Defines how long the verification or the recovery code is valid for (default 1h) lifespan: 15m I have this enabled here but how do I identify if this user has totp enabled ?
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A message from kapa.ai
The configuration you've shared shows that TOTP is enabled as a method in your Ory setup. However, this doesn't directly indicate whether a specific user has TOTP enabled for their account. When a user enables TOTP, Ory adds certain entries to the 
credentials
object of the associated Identity. Specifically, an 
id
with the value 
totp
is added under 
password
. Here's an example of what the 
credentials
object might look like:
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json credentials:     password:       id: totp       identifiers:         - 802471b9-06f5-49d4-a88d-5e7d6bcfed22       config:         totp_url: <otpauth://totp/Example:[[email> protected]](<https://www.ory.sh/cdn-cgi/l/email-protection>)?secret=JBSWY3DPEHPK3PXP&issuer=Example
The 
totp_url
contains the pre-shared key and some additional meta-information. If these entries exist in the 
credentials
object for a user, it means that the user has TOTP enabled. However, the exact method to check this would depend on how you're interacting with Ory. If you're using the Ory CLI, you might need to use a command to fetch the identity configuration and check the 
credentials
object. If you're using the Ory API, you might need to make a request to an endpoint that returns the identity configuration. Please note that this is a general explanation based on the information provided in the [knowledge source](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/mfa/totp#identity-credentials). The exact details might vary depending on your specific setup and configuration.
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@chilly-king-10285 i am using ory rest api
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A message from kapa.ai
To check if a user has TOTP enabled using the Ory REST API, you would need to fetch the user's identity and examine the 
credentials
object in the response. Unfortunately, the provided knowledge sources do not include specific details or examples of the API endpoints you would need to use to fetch a user's identity. However, typically in REST APIs, there would be a GET endpoint such as 
/identities/{id}
where 
{id}
is the identifier of the user whose information you want to fetch. The response from such an endpoint would typically include the 
credentials
object. Here's an example of what the 
credentials
object might look like when TOTP is enabled:
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json credentials:     password:       id: totp       identifiers:         - 802471b9-06f5-49d4-a88d-5e7d6bcfed22       config:         totp_url: <otpauth://totp/Example:[[email> protected]](<https://www.ory.sh/cdn-cgi/l/email-protection>)?secret=JBSWY3DPEHPK3PXP&issuer=Example
If these entries exist in the 
credentials
object for a user, it means that the user has TOTP enabled. For the exact API endpoint and method to use, please refer to the Ory API documentation or the API reference provided in your Ory setup.
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@chilly-king-10285 i am not getting any credentials object when I use whomi API { "id": "c86ea732-235b-4ad4-85e6-7ce4bf796807", "active": true, "expires_at": "2024-06-22T224335.545834Z", "authenticated_at": "2024-06-22T214335.545834Z", "authenticator_assurance_level": "aal1", "authentication_methods": [ { "method": "code", "aal": "aal1", "completed_at": "2024-06-22T214335.545824459Z" } ], "issued_at": "2024-06-22T214335.545834Z", "identity": { "id": "2edbcf65-92b3-4e2f-a6f1-3b3d6a4325b5", "schema_id": "email", "schema_url": "http://127.0.0.1:4433/schemas/ZW1haWw", "state": "active", "state_changed_at": "2024-06-22T213917.179004Z", "traits": { "email": "sid@g.com" }, "verifiable_addresses": [ { "id": "ce4fa144-1fcd-4c5c-ab83-6b3e4a3b79f1", "value": "sid@g.com", "verified": true, "via": "email", "status": "completed", "verified_at": "2024-06-22T213917.182692Z", "created_at": "2024-06-22T213917.182876Z", "updated_at": "2024-06-22T213917.182876Z" } ], "recovery_addresses": [ { "id": "4c3fcbbd-9861-4961-83ad-1f4bde2459e4", "value": "sid@g.com", "via": "email", "created_at": "2024-06-22T213917.184898Z", "updated_at": "2024-06-22T213917.184898Z" } ], "metadata_public": null, "created_at": "2024-06-22T213917.180954Z", "updated_at": "2024-06-22T213917.180954Z", "organization_id": null }, "devices": [ { "id": "2f2941d0-9a73-49f5-b353-469ee1b442a0", "ip_address": "192.168.65.1:16102", "user_agent": "PostmanRuntime/7.38.0", "location": "" } ] }
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A message from kapa.ai
The 
/sessions/whoami
endpoint in Ory Kratos is used to check the session status of a user. It returns information about the session, including the session's ID, its active status, expiration time, and the associated identity. However, it does not return the 
credentials
object which contains information about the authentication methods enabled for the user, such as TOTP. In the response you've shared, there's no 
credentials
object, which is expected for the 
/sessions/whoami
endpoint. The 
authentication_methods
array indicates the methods used for the current session, but it doesn't necessarily reflect all the methods enabled for the user. To check if a user has TOTP enabled, you would typically need to fetch the user's identity, which should include the 
credentials
object. Unfortunately, the provided knowledge sources do not include specific details or examples of the API endpoints you would need to use to fetch a user's identity. For the exact API endpoint and method to use, please refer to the Ory API documentation or the API reference provided in your Ory setup.
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@chilly-king-10285 Hi, I have a question. I want to add MFA in Kratos with TOTP, and I already have code as my primary auth method. How do I identify if a user has TOTP enabled in their identity? Currently, I am not getting any errors in the sign-in process and no errors in whoami. Is there any way to identify if an identity has TOTP enabled using frontend APIs? I have highest available enabled in session
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session:
  lifespan: "1h"

  whoami:
    required_aal: highest_available
and these are my methods for reference
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methods:
    oidc:
      enabled: false
    webauthn:
      enabled: false
    totp:
      enabled: true

    code:
      passwordless_enabled: true
      enabled: true
      config:
        lifespan: 15m
c
A message from kapa.ai
The configuration you've shared shows that TOTP is enabled as a method in your Ory setup. However, this doesn't directly indicate whether a specific user has TOTP enabled for their account. When a user enables TOTP, Ory adds certain entries to the 
credentials
object of the associated Identity. Specifically, an 
id
with the value 
totp
is added under 
password
. Here's an example of what the 
credentials
object might look like:
Copy code
json credentials:     password:       id: totp       identifiers:         - 802471b9-06f5-49d4-a88d-5e7d6bcfed22       config:         totp_url: <otpauth://totp/Example:[[email> protected]](<https://www.ory.sh/cdn-cgi/l/email-protection>)?secret=JBSWY3DPEHPK3PXP&issuer=Example
The 
totp_url
contains the pre-shared key and some additional meta-information. If these entries exist in the 
credentials
object for a user, it means that the user has TOTP enabled. However, the exact method to check this would depend on how you're interacting with Ory. If you're using the Ory CLI, you might need to use a command to fetch the identity configuration and check the 
credentials
object. If you're using the Ory API, you might need to make a request to an endpoint that returns the identity configuration. Please note that this is a general explanation based on the information provided in the [knowledge source](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/mfa/totp#identity-credentials). The exact details might vary depending on your specific setup and configuration. Unfortunately, the provided knowledge sources do not include specific details or examples of the API endpoints you would need to use to fetch a user's identity. For the exact API endpoint and method to use, please refer to the Ory API documentation or the API reference provided in your Ory setup.
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