<@U04UQ68083H> I am using ORY kratos for identity ...
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@chilly-king-10285 I am using ORY kratos for identity management and ORY Hydra as an OAuth2 server. When a user logs in the user is authenticated at ORY kratos and is issued a token now I want to use ORY hydra for authenticated users to generate the access tokens and identity tokens. How can I achieve this?
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A message from kapa.ai
To achieve this, you can use Ory Kratos for user authentication and Ory Hydra for issuing access and identity tokens. Here's a general workflow: 1. User Authentication with Ory Kratos: When a user logs in, they are authenticated at Ory Kratos. Upon successful authentication, a session is created for the user. This session is proof that the user is authenticated and allows them to interact with the system without the need to re-authenticate for every request. The session can be issued in two formats: Ory Session Cookie (for web browser interactions) and Ory Session Token (for non-web browser clients like mobile apps). [source](https://www.ory.sh/docs/kratos/session-management/overview) 2. Token Generation with Ory Hydra: Once the user is authenticated, you can use Ory Hydra to generate the access and identity tokens. In a typical flow, the user agent (browser, mobile device) is redirected to a login endpoint with a challenge that contains important request information. Upon successful authentication, the login endpoint redirects the user back to Ory Hydra. Ory Hydra then needs the user's consent. It redirects the user agent to the consent endpoint where the user is asked to grant access. Once the user gives consent, the consent endpoint redirects back to Ory Hydra. Hydra validates the request and issues the access, refresh, and ID tokens. [source](https://www.ory.sh/docs/hydra/case-study) Remember, Ory Hydra isn't identity management, it connects to your existing identity management (in this case, Ory Kratos) and is capable of issuing access, refresh, and ID tokens in a secure and OpenID Certified manner. [source](https://www.ory.sh/docs/ecosystem/projects) Please note that the exact implementation details may vary based on your specific use case and system architecture. For more detailed instructions, you may want to refer to the official Ory documentation or community resources.
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@chilly-king-10285 how do I configure the ORY-Hydra to use the ORY-Kratos as identity management?
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A message from kapa.ai
To configure Ory Hydra to use Ory Kratos as the identity provider, you would typically set up Ory Kratos to handle user management and authentication, and then use Ory Hydra to handle OAuth 2.0 and OpenID Connect flows. However, the specific details on how to connect Ory Hydra with Ory Kratos are not provided in the given extracts. For detailed instructions, you should refer to the official Ory documentation or community resources. It's important to note that Ory Hydra is not an identity management system but an OAuth 2.0 and OpenID Connect provider. It does not handle user management, but instead delegates these tasks to an identity provider like Ory Kratos. [source](https://www.ory.sh/docs/ecosystem/projects) Similarly, Ory Kratos is a modern open-source identity server that implements core use cases that almost every software application needs to deal with: Self-service Login and Registration, Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA), Account Recovery, and more. [source](https://www.ory.sh/docs/ecosystem/projects) Please consult the official Ory documentation for more specific instructions on how to integrate Ory Hydra with Ory Kratos.