Hello every,
Starting to play with Keto and got a ...
# ory-selfhostingd
delightful-pillow-54981
10/23/2023, 12:11 PMHello every,
Starting to play with Keto and got a question regarding OPL. Reading the documentation, the example are all written using Typescript (e.g. https://www.ory.sh/docs/keto/modeling/create-permission-model). But how do I deploy them on self-hosted Keto instance? When having a look a the examples (e.g. https://www.ory.sh/docs/keto/quickstart) in GitHub all relation tuples are defined using JSON. The keto CLI itself only knows JSON (https://www.ory.sh/docs/keto/cli/keto-relation-tuple-create) whereas the ory cli knows TS (https://github.com/ory/keto/blob/master/README.md#create-a-namespace-with-the-ory-permission-language).
Tried using the Ory Console, where the Permission Rules are defines using TS. Now I'd like to do this using the self-hosted Keto.
As of now I couldn't get any hints in the documentation regarding this topic.
Thanks for your help.
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magnificent-energy-493
10/23/2023, 1:13 PM
When self-hosting Keto you just add it to the config directly, see here for example: https://github.com/ory/keto/tree/master/contrib/rewrites-example
So the namespaces are .ts and the relation tuples are json.
You can not edit the namespaces via the API or CLI when self-hosting Keto I think, just edit the file directly.
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delightful-pillow-54981
10/23/2023, 1:22 PMThanks for the hint, that gave me the information needed.
However, the provided example seem not to work with the current version and seems outdated (reference: https://www.ory.sh/docs/keto/reference/configuration).
Example:
namespaces:location: file://./namespaces.keto.tsnamespaces: file://./namespaces.keto.tsdelightful-pillow-54981
10/23/2023, 1:26 PMFor clarification:
Using a TS configuration for a self-hosted environment is only possible when configuring using the configuration file. For taking effect, a server must be restarted.
delightful-pillow-54981
10/25/2023, 11:25 AM@magnificent-energy-493: Just played around a little bit and this is weard.
The example you linked works as follow:
namespaces:location: file://./namespaces.keto.tsnamespaces: file://./namespaces.keto.tscould not infer format from file extension audience=application error=map[message:expected one of [.yaml, .yml, .json, .toml] but got .ts] file_name=./namespaces/namespaces.keto.ts service_name=Ory Keto service_version=v0.11.1-alpha.0s
steep-lamp-91158
10/26/2023, 12:35 PM
the namespaces key is polymorph, just use the location and it will work
steep-lamp-91158
10/26/2023, 12:36 PM
that cannot be correctly described in the config reference with our current tooling
m
magnificent-application-93453
11/08/2023, 7:41 PMConfirmed the keto CLI can handle typescript. Just use the correct port 4466
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flat-continent-29959
11/10/2023, 11:49 AMLets say if we want to have relationships updated through our custom UI. Because there is no API access available for self hosted, Can self APIs be written and integrated. Because adding new relationships might be one the few things we would like to have dynamic. And can it work without restarting the system?
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flat-continent-29959
11/11/2023, 5:16 AM@steep-lamp-91158 @magnificent-energy-493 Any help here please?
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magnificent-energy-493
11/11/2023, 11:16 AM
@flat-continent-29959
When you are self-hosting Ory Keto, you can use the same APIs as with Ory Network, or what was the question?
https://www.ory.sh/docs/keto/reference/rest-api#tag/relationship/operation/createRelationship
For namespaces you need to edit the config, the same happens in Ory Network, there we just provide a UI for it and CLI.
You can replicate that as well on your server and there is also a CLI.
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flat-continent-29959
11/13/2023, 4:44 AMAlrght. thanks Vincent. However my question was, Can we create new relationships using APIs with the existing permission rules and namespaces. I think the answer would be yes, as per the doc you linked. Thanks for this
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